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Originally Posted by Brent Smith
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Originally Posted by Brent Smith
No, but what you can do is force them to come to one knee or stand. The most reliable way to do this is to insert your lower leg into a half guard, and then use your free leg to push against their hip. The pulling of the bottom leg and pushing of the free leg will force them to stand or come to combat base (one leg up).Quote:
Originally Posted by Brent Smith
Then you can turn your bottom leg into a reverse DLR/spiral hook. From here you can go into the RDLR options or while keeping a grip of their close heel, keep your free leg on their hip to maintain distance, remove your RDLR hook, place it on their hip as well. Both feet should now be on their close hip. Now, take your outside leg and simply make it a DLR hook.
You can also go back to the RDLR by reversing the process. Control the heel, remove the DLR hook, place it on the hip, then make a RDLR hook with your inside leg. You cannot just switch from DLR to RDLR or RDLR to DLR without keeping pressure on their hip to maintain the distance. If you just take out the hook on one side and put it in on the other side they will smash you.
This is a a greal drill for guard retention. Switch from hip to hip, DLR to RDLR and the other way around. Anytime the stuff or remove a hook, switch hips and go to the other side.
^ yep
You can also settle into a z-guard and invert to tornado. Hard for me to sweep nogi but I can usually force them to stand or bring a knee up. Then dlr, rdlr, x, single x, you get the idea.
very very nice bobby riversQuote:
Originally Posted by bobby rivers
I'm glad you made this thread for me as a reference. Although we touched on the DLR and Berimbolos, we have not have the time to dive into it yet. However, the kid that recently beat Cora been playing this game for a while now, understandably so since he trains at AOJ with Mendes bros. My question is, is there a video on how to DEFEND against it? I figure if we don't have time to drill the DLR yet since we been working on our clinch game (half guard), I still want to teach Cora how to defend against it. Thanks
Best way to learn to defend something it to learn the attack real well!!
I agree. If you know what he's trying to accomplish you know what to stop and when to escape. You know how some people don't defend the zomie? If you know rg, there's no way in hell you're gonna let that happen.
When im attacking I like to skip the whole fuckin thing and fly over with cartwheels, rolling kimuras or guillatines. Or I drop to both knees and try to double under and counter his defense to it.
Thanks guys
I know Lovato put out a video on how to beat the berimbolo. It's in the gi but the concepts translate no gi. Ill have to find it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cora Sek
Eddie says he doesn't prefer standing passing, because he doesn't like people underneath him and around his feet. I agree. But there are so many good ways to standing pass, so it just depends on which is better. Your passing or their guard.
I hear what yall are saying. But I'm trying to get her to have a better understanding of the half guard game first. I just pray that in the meanwhile noone hit her up with the DLR or berimbolos...:) After she get the half guard game down, for sure DLR and berimbolos are next on our list.
You do realize that wasn't me right?:)Quote:
Originally Posted by nathan cybul
You got time. The problem will arise when your ministomp fails and your opponent has a rediculous base and standing passing game. Eddies quarter guard to dogfight is just as valuable as this entire thread. Its just several of many options.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cora Sek
Imo its a 2 way street. The same problems that arise trying to apply dlr nogi come up tryin to defend it. Its way easier to grab that pant leg and back step than to hold on to an ankle or foot. Also no lapel means you can just push on his ribs for body control. Works both ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brent Smith
I think Eddie mentions it in an MTS episode about just sitting your ass down as soon as somebody ties up your legs. I have been doing that for a while now, seems to be OK defense for now. Should be good for Cora now as leg attacks are generally frowned upon in Kids BJJ.
I dont think for her age group the understanding of how to play an effective DLR will be there. Focus on half guard is a good choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cora Sek
Good video. Although this one doesn't result in any sweeps, it's probably the best example of using the RDLR to maintain and control distance without the gi. The fact that Rafa completely shut down Rodolfo's passing is amazing. Rafa never lets Rodolfo pass his hips line.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobby rivers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmvGGNbujSU
Brent: that half guard game, lockdown, 1/4 guard, has been GOLD for her so far. YOu don't know how many times it bail her out of trouble because of her able to grab onto that 1/4 guard and reel it in for the lockdown. There is a boy about 100lbs in her class that is a higher belt, he would always, I mean ALWAYS tap her out by just dropping his weight on her and then hunt for the AMericana. I'm so sick of seeing it. Everything I teach her how to counter that doesn't work on him....UNTIL the lockdown become part of her game. Now she is putting up more of a fight. The lockdown give her enough time to work her game. The lockdown has really lift her game to another level.
Yeah, love that vid, its a clinic on how to maintain and control the distance that the Mendes brothers preach even against a monster who has a crazy amount of weight on youQuote:
Originally Posted by Mike Nall
Rafa is the man
Its a clinic on both ends. You have to believe that 99% of people would have been either passed in Rafa's case or swept in Rodolfo's.
At 2:30. Thats how you defend dlr nogi.
So just smashing that bottom leg and staying tight?
Lol. Easier said then done, but yeah, thats kinda it. Turn your shin into the outside leg and pressure. He'll have to transition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=33ql2pooy2I
This was in another thread but what do you guys think of it working no gi?
Maybe not waiting for the berimbolo but as soon as he gets the DLR, backstepping then progressing through the technique
Its been about a year and I still love this. My training partners have gotten really good at defending dig/rdlr or just avoiding it all together. The answer was transitioning to singleX then reap or go full x and tree top. This has been huge for me.
How have y'all been doing?
I've given dlr and rdlr a break and have been working my 1/4 guard and single leg X. Since the sock lock and all the other leg lock stuff that people have been going to I'm keeping my feet safer this way.
Why not just practice your heart out and become a BA at dlr and spiral and the bolo? Who cares if you get tapped. :-DQuote:
Originally Posted by Brent Smith
Propper foot placement is crucial. If you can get controlled you were out of position or stagnet.
Cause i like quarter guard and shin to shin way more. Don't get me wrong ill play the bolo if it's there but I have other areas I'm working on that work better for my style.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tori Applegate
i like shooting a deep dlr hook and going for dlr/x guard, like how jt torres plays in the gi, it works no gi as well
just keeping an open mind will take you pretty far with this style. i like the shin to shin game as well brent.
They play off eachother. When he turns into your dlr, it makes the transition to shin on shin easy and deep. His rear leg is square and easy to grab.
Copying this here from another thread because I got told too! It's a mash up of 3 posts so if it doesn't make sense ask and i'll clarify.
RDLR is definitely easier for no gi and is far more common. Ball & Chain is legit. Its also reasonably easy to stand up to a single and works well no gi. The hardest thing in no gi is the lack of grips, so you have to stomp their far leg at the thigh with your non hooking leg to make them post on the floor in order to get wrist control. John Frankl has a good SBGi DVD on the DLR for MMA, Mario Sperry also covers it a lot on his Vale Tudo tapes. I have some gifs I can post up in a bit.
This is the far leg stomp I was talking about, obviously in one of the gifs he already has wrist control, but its the same concept.
http://oi57.tinypic.com/2j2b98p.jpg
http://oi58.tinypic.com/2rhpkxg.jpg
Ignore the punches, but when the try press your hook down you can get the wrist.
http://oi60.tinypic.com/2mxrdbq.jpg
If you fail to get wrist control you can granby to 50/50 or sit up on a single (again the knee push here can help off balance and create space first).
http://oi59.tinypic.com/2zpil4i.jpg
http://oi61.tinypic.com/20us7cw.jpg
Anytime you get the far wrist, stomp the leg
http://oi60.tinypic.com/9jj41s.jpg
With the near wrist if your stomp is timed well you might break them down well enough to attack omoplatas or triangles
http://oi61.tinypic.com/168vitx.jpg
You can begin working towards the back, if they shift their weight to defend use a deep hook and push at their armpit with your leg to topple them forward and take the back.
http://oi58.tinypic.com/90nf6f.jpg
http://oi57.tinypic.com/6f9q8k.jpg
If they pull their trapped leg out switch to foot on the hips or instantly attack with the sickle/tomahawk sweep. If they step away or over from that swing your leg back in and around to single leg x.
http://oi59.tinypic.com/iglxxx.jpg
http://oi62.tinypic.com/2vdpf2h.jpg
The hardest thing you will probably come across is maintaining the position, especially if you are learning it in no gi. In the beginning I would suggest holding any wrist grip with two hands, with your palms facing opposite directions. You won't be able to control the foot this way so you probably will get passed more in the beginning. However if you try hold the wrist with only one hand and control the foot with the other you will probably end up with lower sensitivity for the position and relying on only one or two options.