fair enough. I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren
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fair enough. I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren
Dude, ignore that part. I don't think too many people were saying it, just a couple. Plus, it baffles me why someone would respond in such an acerbic manner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cora Sek
I think some people on this thread took it too far which only speculation, which is very unfortunate..Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian Debes
I said the predator thing. It seems creepy to invite a bunch of poor kids to your garage to wrassle. Tell me that doesn't sound shady as fuck.
No .....that's sounds very ........normalQuote:
Originally Posted by brent_littell
Well said, thats 110% the truthQuote:
Originally Posted by brent_littell
I don't care what anyone says, that looks horrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by brent_littell
+1 seems cool to me, aside from not being qualified to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clinton lawrence
i'm not hating on or judging anything brent said, like he pointed out he has a lot more vested in the system than me/most of us.
I keep seeing videos on youtube of teachers in Brazil opening their gym doors to poor kids. It's a different country and different culture though.Quote:
Originally Posted by brent_littell
Ya but back to the beginning they are qualified teachersQuote:
Originally Posted by brianspinaltap
True.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Alexander
By normal I mean creepy as fuck I'd be surprised if Cora was aloud to do rubber guard ever again either way look out of a Gracie garage opening up
it only sounds creepy because of how brent worded it. if I were asking a girl to come try out jiu jitsu and I told her it was sweaty full grown men in tights rolling on the ground trying to stick their opponents head in between their legs to make them "submit", that would sound creepy as fuck as well but we all know it's not like that at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clinton lawrence
this guy stated that he wanted to utilize his garage space to teach whatever knowledge he and his daughter knew to underprivileged children for free and some of you on here read that and thought "he wants to molest children". Anyways, whatever, damage is done. Lost a future 10PJJ superstar in Cora.
Allright; Allright already... Evree1 has diff views onnit.. I mean, shit, I kno we live in an Orwellian Society, butt peeps are(as 4 now) still free 2 have an opinion. Yall should stop being doltish:P(im yoozin big boy woids) and pudditt 2 rest; jus sayin.
No it's the history of it allQuote:
Originally Posted by Justin W.
When Bruce was asked had he trained or is his training or is he going to train the answers varied from I can't afford it to I have a injury to I don't have the time
The constant barrage of videos became so mind numbing that when asked by myself and other senior members of the forum to hey can you turn in down abit was not only ignored when worded in a polite and constructive manner if any one had brough it up in the past they where ignored from future mentions of a even if the feed back was positive
Wanting to teach is where it gets me if I want to learn to shoot a gun I'm going To go to a gun range ask the person behind the counter for someone to teach me how to handle a dangerous weapon in a safe environment why cause guns are dangerous when handled incorrectly same goes with martial arts it's about developing timing and a feel for what's going in a dangerous situation and if your not training in this environment on the regular and your saying you want to teach your delusional
As far as a child molester comment that's the worst case and it shouldn't have been taken to heart but on paper it looks like it could happen a grown man rolling around in the floor with kids in his house and I say house because he can't afford to train so getting into a gym or renting the space to start one is highly unlikely (allegedly) Brent's a og of the system and has nothing but my respect protecting the system and its integrity are high on everybody's lists I've seen numerous fakers using the 10th planet name over my years on the forum they all get found out they all get dealt with and that's guys running gyms claiming to be bjj black belts to guys claiming hot box status
Last week I had 73 friends in common with Bruce on fb now I have 5 if you can't handle getting your ego smashed this is the wrong sport to be in
Yes it's sad Cora no longer will rep 10th planet I hope she continues to train and grow as a martial artist and I hope that Bruce can see past it all and know it all coms from a place of love ,love for the system ,love for the safety of others and , love of wanting to bring out the best in people
Saw a tweet this morning that reminded me of this entire thread.
"If you need to invoke your academic pedigree or job title for people to believe you, then you need a better argument".
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson
Fo Sho--> Like dis here: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Dkv0KCR3Yiw
-Richard Feynman on Honours-
Funny, cause I didn't invoke my job title as a marriage and family therapist who specializes in trauma to children and treating offenders. I just pointed out what he was doing. Guess I just did ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Trey Hicks
Cora is good. But I have seen a ton of Cora's. puberty and interest are the deciding factors in which children become champions. All kids are pretty equal physically until puberty. Then some get really strong and fast, and others don't. BJJ is about attributes and technique. who knows what hers will be. Also, when kids hit high school, many are more interested in hanging out with their friends than training. We don't know how she will turn out in that regard. On top of all of that, she might have broken under her fathers pressure. The guy was intense.
Look if he really wanted to help kids, then why not start a scholarship fund for kids to go to his daughters BJJ school. The guy brags about helping poor people find money to pay for college. Can't he help find money for that or do a fundraiser. No, he wanted to teach the kids, and in his garage of all places. If it was a good idea, why wouldn't his daughters BJJ gym offer space. Why wouldn't he hire a qualified instructor or try and find one.
Finally, he is a money manager but claims his neighborhood is full of neglected and impoverished children? That doesn't add up. Hr is sucessful but lives in a ghetto? It's just the cherry on the bullshit sundae.
Brent I live you:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by brent_littell
Brandon Woolsey I think you should write a short list on How to be a Jiu Jitsu dad and not creep people out to privately send to up and coming 10th Planet JJ dads that pop up in the future. Just joking but it probably wouldnt be a bad idea
Naaaahh bad idea, Brandon is creepy too! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Marshall
Charles Bukowski - The Genius Of The Crowd
there is enough treachery, hatred violence absurdity in the average
human being to supply any given army on any given day
and the best at murder are those who preach against it
and the best at hate are those who preach love
and the best at war finally are those who preach peace
those who preach god, need god
those who preach peace do not have peace
those who preach peace do not have love
beware the preachers
beware the knowers
beware those who are always reading books
beware those who either detest poverty
or are proud of it
beware those quick to praise
for they need praise in return
beware those who are quick to censor
they are afraid of what they do not know
beware those who seek constant crowds for
they are nothing alone
beware the average man the average woman
beware their love, their love is average
seeks average
but there is genius in their hatred
there is enough genius in their hatred to kill you
to kill anybody
not wanting solitude
not understanding solitude
they will attempt to destroy anything
that differs from their own
not being able to create art
they will not understand art
they will consider their failure as creators
only as a failure of the world
not being able to love fully
they will believe your love incomplete
and then they will hate you
and their hatred will be perfect
like a shining diamond
like a knife
like a mountain
like a tiger
like hemlock
their finest art
Lol. But he's not pageant mom creepyQuote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
Appreciate that my brotha!!:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Marshall
Lol I thought Brandon and Tyler were brothers!
Also: epic thread. Im sure if Cora actually enjoys BJJ we will hear from her again and if it was all just pressure from Bruce and him trying to live through her we wont.
Fuckin A!!! WIN for the old man!!!:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fraser Taylor
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Originally Posted by Fraser Taylor
Haha Fraser doin some sweet talking there :p
I think everyone has a right to an opinion, Brent has a good point about the system needing to be protected from a fraudulent "hot box", or anything that could create a negative view.
I think it is more about people piling on, and the predator statement was a little strong. Its too bad that all this had to go down like it did. Cora is a great representative of the system, maybe Bruce is a touch miss guided, maybe not. Only time will tell.
Peace to everyone of our extended 10th Planet Family.
crazy thread.
dude was weird, we can all see that now (i didn't before, hard to judge parents when you dont have kids) A normal person would have said "you guys are right, I shouldn't be teaching and fuck you bret" right?
Mr. Littell makes some strong ass points. The predator thing was harsh yes but tough guys assume other guys are tough as well. If you said "bret, you're a pederast", I assume he wouldn't take his ball and go home.
Lets face it, Bruce just rage quit 10th Planet.
My Dad has always been my biggest fan and hugest supporter. He constantly pushes me in training, school, and in the public realm to promote myself. He always blasts stuff about me online and on the forums cuz he is the bomb but he also teaches me how to promote myself and gain supporters and make new contacts but he doesn't completely take over all of it and try to control my training or my image. I think Bruce may have pushed a little much as I would have rather seen Cora on the forums for herself more than always her dad. Granted she is young and the internet is a crazy beast lol just my two cents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Marshall
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Originally Posted by Fraser Taylor
Win for us both!Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon Woolsey
I always thought it was a little weird that he posted under his daughter's name.
Your not the only one i did twoQuote:
Originally Posted by Josh Mahoney
But i can see why h did post under her name proberly would of been better to have cora post as well
So I haven't been on the forums much this week, was a little bit last night and here I am..just finishing up this thread and wow. Took up a good amount of my Sunday. I have to agree with Aaron. Seems like the most valid point made since Bruce made his last comment. Sean and I do not have kids and my parents are divorced. My siblings and I never really have been big into any one sport so we never had an enthusiastic parent cheering us on. I ran cross country once..nothing to cheer over. Thought his enthusiasm was overwhelming but normal with him having one kid. Sadly, our IOthplanet Gulfshores FB account now only has 9 friends in common with Bruce...and I add every 10P person who adds us or that I personally can find....I feel bad. I don't know Bruce well. We all get butt hurt sometimes but he just went off the grids. What if he was just an enthusiastic father that was just trying to help and he's just emotional so he said screw y'all and deleted everyone? I mean what's done is done, but...*shrugs* You just never know people I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson
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Originally Posted by VJ Bella
VJ Bella 4 tha win; chimin in lika boss!
Hahaha Well played,VJ, well played indeed.
Not that it matters but he has a son as well...At least I assumed that was his son.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tori Applegate
Oh yea. Well, I really don't know then. He's not old enough to be in a sport yet though so. Idk just trying to rationalize some.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brent Smith
Okey dokey.. Well. Jiu jitsu.? Anyone?
Brandon Woolsey is a prime example of the perfect Jiu Jitsu dad:)
His rage quit says a lot about his character