(Video) The Week in Roc Episode 21: The Quarter Ghost to Triangle

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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog

Bruce, The Ghost is my #1 counter to the knee slice ;)

It's no different then using it from Quarter Guard, it's just one continual motion.

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Thank Coach. I've been trying to find solution to this knee slice pass for a long time. Will definitely put this into Cora's game.

Start her with ghost to sprawl control, it's the easiest one to start with.

Bruce make sure she ghosts out when she feels the pressure, also make sure that when she does the ghost that the legs glide across the mat as she rotates the hips and they don't drag so you don't Homer Simpson run.

After playing with this a bunch, I am really liking Ghost to Sprawl-Control, then to Back of the Truck from MTS:64. The more pressure and aggression the opponent uses, the easier it seems to be. Just as he starts to resist the Sprawl Control, then make the quick move to Back of the Truck.

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Originally Posted by NameLikeNoOther

After playing with this a bunch, I am really liking Ghost to Sprawl-Control, then to Back of the Truck from MTS:64. The more pressure and aggression the opponent uses, the easier it seems to be. Just as he starts to resist the Sprawl Control, then make the quick move to Back of the Truck.

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Putting the 2 transitions together is super legit!

i don't know about you guys but i was messing around with this yesterday and i found it helped to bridge into my opponent first to create space and ensure i'm on my side before bringing my right arm under to the hip and ghosting out.

that said, it all has to be done in a fluid motion or you're creating too big of an opportunity for your opponent to counter and take up the space you created.

Heres the orginal series from Side Control

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WwTdyHitV0

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Originally Posted by Tony Toffolo

i don't know about you guys but i was messing around with this yesterday and i found it helped to bridge into my opponent first to create space and ensure i'm on my side before bringing my right arm under to the hip and ghosting out.

that said, it all has to be done in a fluid motion or you're creating too big of an opportunity for your opponent to counter and take up the space you created.

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Quick tip that you can observe in the video: don't try to ghost if they don't drive their knee to your gut to block guard recovery. Yes, definitely bridge/shrimp. But if you have space to replace guard, just do that. If they drive their knee in (which they're supposed to..it's just good fundamentals), that's when you whizzer pimp arm and go to the ghost. If there's no knee, just re-establish guard.

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Originally Posted by Tony Toffolo

i don't know about you guys but i was messing around with this yesterday and i found it helped to bridge into my opponent first to create space and ensure i'm on my side before bringing my right arm under to the hip and ghosting out.

that said, it all has to be done in a fluid motion or you're creating too big of an opportunity for your opponent to counter and take up the space you created.

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I use "baby bumps" (small short multiple bridges) to do just what your describing, if I can't shrimp to my side and I'm stuck on my back. I use to small bumps rather than a large bridge that to avoid the same issues you stated. I'd much rather shrimp to my side however it is a good fall back plan.

This deserves a bump!!!! After watching Andrew Alexander match on facebook yesterday. Andrew hit a Ghost from side control to triangle. It was a thing of beauty.

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Originally Posted by Joseph Hachey

Cool looking triangle, but terribly low-percentage.

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Originally Posted by Tom Carbone

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Yep that about sums that up!!

It'll never work.

OK I have a question. From the first video in the thread, it's quarter guard and the guy is doing a knee slice pass with an underhook. Say you are in quarter guard and the guy is trying to knee slice pass but he doesn't have an underhook. Say the guy on the bottom still has an underhook. Should he try and come up to dog fight and work from there ? I think I get passed whilst I have an underhook due to being a lazy git sometimes haha. Hopefully the question makes sense !

Absolutely, if I have an underhook in 1/4 guard I'm going straight to dogfight!

Thanks Chris, so yes I am being a lazy git haha. I don't have massive success with some of the options when I lose the underhook so I am wanting to get some more answers like the ghost. But if I do manage to have an underhook I need to actually expend some energy and move to dogfight !