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Originally Posted by Louis Ho
His child was just murdered, he's flooded with a lot of different emotions.
For all you know he was thinking of something good about them, before he was just reminded that he has to go on.
I seriously hope you never have to go through the same thing, and if you do I hope no insensitive people criticize you for your reaction to the murder of your child.
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Originally Posted by Mitchell C
my take on seans comment was that your saying not listening to the info we're givin is bad and yet there is people such as mike powers the guy who was on the radio show in the link at the start, who is pointing out the mistakes in the story and giving us answers aswell. seems a bit like you're looking at it one way when it suits for your arguement and not when it goes the other way, (sorry that came out way harsher than i wanted it i think,) this entire post is about someone who did more than just write it off as a conspiracy than it does to do research.
This made me spit coffee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conner MACHINE Gibbons
Mel Brooks says that this is a classic zombie outbreak coverup. The gun control debate is just a piece of the coverup.
Look, I am not one of those shitheads that says "pics or it didn't happen", but after 10+ years of researching the global conspiracy and seeing it for what it really is, I am skeptical of all mainstream media outlets.
Afaic, every single thing you see and hear on every single newschannel or entertainment channel is a specifically engineeried piece of brainwashing. There are only a few people in the cabal who have complete control over what is aired, and everything that is aired serves a specific purpose. That is my opinion that is founded on a ton of research.
All you have to do is research "Crysis actors" for starters. The fact that the Sandy Hook donation site was up TWO DAYS BEFORE THE SHOOTING seems normal to everyone I guess.
Wisconsin Sihk Temple shooting = Multiple shooters in tactical gear according to witnesses - Media blames one guy.
Colorado Batman shooting = Multiple shooters in tactical gear according to witnesses - Media blames one guy.
SandyHook shooting = Multiple shooters in tactical gear according to witnesses (in earshot only, no-one actually saw anything) - Media blames one guy.
Okay, the site was definitely not up 2 days before the shooting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurzy
Google is notoriously bad at indexing pages to accurately reflect the day they were posted.
Look at this date-restricted Google search for Sandy Hook. You can see tons and tons of articles about Sandy Hook "published" months before the shooting:
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22s...12%2F2012&tbm=
One goes all the way back to Jan. 2012.
You can also do this and find articles about 9/11 before 9/11, etc. That's why it doesn't seem fishy, because for Google that's par for the course.
As far as witness testimony, it's notoriously unreliable. Our memories are awful, especially under stress. It's easy as hell for one shooter to turn into 2 when you're under attack by a crazed man armed to the teeth.
That's it? That's the evidence? If you're prepared to say that this is a huge conspiracy there needs to be some more evidence that can't be shot down with some basic research.
Yeah, to me, that is the strangest segment from the viral video. But again, considering that every other piece that the viral video proposed was successfully debunked, again I go to Occam's Razor...Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis Ho
What is more plausible:
a- A father in mourning that we know nothing about exhibits odd behavior on live television the day after his daughter is murdered.
or
b- He is a crisis actor that is a part of a giant conspiracy to take away the 2nd amendment.
I go with option a, simply because every other credible piece of "evidence" in favor of the conspiracy has been shot down. People are weird as shit, who knows why he cracked a grin?
Also, the main organization responsible for disseminating info about these crisis actors is http://www.wellaware1.com/ (it looks like their site is down right now? it was up yesterday) but they also propose that Hitler and Walt Disney weren't real, and were also played by actors, etc. They specialize in trying to convince people that lots of our favorite celebrities and politicians are also pseudo-persons.
What I just did isn't exactly the most fair debate tactic, and it's pretty much an ad hominem, because I'm attacking them, not their proposal. But in this case they're so fucking ridiculous I couldn't help myself.
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Originally Posted by Mike Nall
Kinda like how CNN announced the destruction of WTC building number 7 on the news. Before it happened. And no planes hit it. Hardy har har.
Now you simply dismiss the account of multiple witnesses based on your statement that people's memories are bad? lol. OK.
I've got nothing to prove and no dogs in this fight. I've known about the conspiracy long enough to go through all the growing stages, and I am well past the stage where people feel the need to make sure everyone knows that the conspiracy is real.
You can drink as much kool-aid as you want, and vote for Obama or whatever other meat-puppet with put up as "the other choice" in their two-party system. You can take vaccinations, eat corn-fed beef, drink fluorinated water, believe in terrorists, eat vegetables spliced with salmon genes, buy suicide seeds from Monsanto, and pretend that the news is real. Have a blast.
I personally am at a point where I am just focused on protecting my family from all of those things and more.
For the record WellAware1 is disinfo.
I’m sorry are we talking Sandy Hook or 9/11? I’ll stick with the subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurzy
I’m not dismissing accounts of witnesses. The 24 hour news cycle post 9/11 has driven people in the news to report stories without checking sources out first just so that they can be “first.” Hold on…
I was going to write more, but you’re calling me a kool-aid drinker just because I have a different opinion than you? Jesus what a turn off. If someone wants to debate issues and beliefs, that’s fine. I believe in some conspiracies, just not this one. The biggest issue I have with some people that think everything is a conspiracy is that ANYONE with a differing opinion is an Obama voting/kool-aid drinking, mainstream media consuming sheep. Just because I believe Sandy Hook went down as described means I’m those things? That’s beyond offensive. Again, if you want to debate the issues, fine.
I noticed you threw in “believe in terrorists”. I don’t know what you mean by that. Are you saying terrorists haven’t attacked us, or that terrorists simply are not real. Because those are 2 entirely different propositions. Again I wonder why I’m all of these things because we disagree?
What is getting lost here is my principal message and stance: It is not as it seems.
I never said the shooting didn't happen, I never said it did. I never said there was a black ops tactical team carrying out the task, I never said there wasn't either.
What I am saying is that the news lies, they get busted for broadcasting lies, fabricated stories, and propaganda all the time.
I am also saying that there are other people who were witnesses in all of these shootings who have stories that are in contradiction to the official "broadcasted version" of what happened at whichever site you want to discuss.
I personally don't know if the shooting happened or not, if children died or not, if it was a lone gunman or not, or anything at all because this story has been promoted so much on the media that I have my spidey senses tingling, and the fuckers all lied about USS liberty and Waco texas and Timothy McVeigh and pretty near anything else you can think of.
I don't mean to sound so personal with the "Kool-aid" shit. I am just fatigued from years of these types of discussions against both kool-aid drinkers and actual agents from governmental/political bodies. I lose patience quickly and try to be concise by going for the jugular with statements. I mean no offense. I just sometimes convey my point without tact.