Metamoris 2. Kron Gracie vs Shinya Aoki

Yea, the heel hook situation for cooper is pretty bad, but cooper is a baller. With a match that has two extremely dynamic players like that, there's no telling what will happen.

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Originally Posted by sean applegate

Yea, the heel hook situation for cooper is pretty bad, but cooper is a baller. With a match that has two extremely dynamic players like that, there's no telling what will happen.

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Also if Cavaca couldn't footlock Bill, I mean I definitely wasn't suggesting Hall has some huge advantage. I've just seen a couple heel hook losses happen to Bill, like te DJ Jackson one. I think the match is going to be very close. If Cooper gets in some tight spots i easily easily see him putting himself into a guillotine or other sub just to create some opportunities.

I wonder what kind of pay these guys are getting

I don't Aoki would come cheap, Schuab makes some decent money also I would assume, maybe he is doing this as a favor

Its a tough sell to get people to pay, grappling shows never have sold well, throw in some mma names but its not like mma fans will buy it because its grappling

Hopefully they will keep these up, I loved the old days ofADCC when you would have mma guys like Tito, Hughes, etc...doing it. Ah, the good ole days

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Originally Posted by Liquidrob

I wonder what kind of pay these guys are getting

I don't Aoki would come cheap, Schuab makes some decent money also I would assume, maybe he is doing this as a favor

Its a tough sell to get people to pay, grappling shows never have sold well, throw in some mma names but its not like mma fans will buy it because its grappling

Hopefully they will keep these up, I loved the old days ofADCC when you would have mma guys like Tito, Hughes, etc...doing it. Ah, the good ole days

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I did hear the first Metamoris did really well, both in PPV buys and attendance (although they didn't sell the arena out)

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Originally Posted by Chauncey Nu'usolia

This are my picks for who wins...lets put some money up.

P.s Bill Cooper has been comming to 10p Corona to get some no Gi rolling in..it has been a pleasure training with him in prep for this hes been teaching us all kinds of stuff.

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Dope!
When does he usually roll thru???

Does anyone know what weight the cooper v hall is at?

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Originally Posted by Mike Nall

Also if Cavaca couldn't footlock Bill, I mean I definitely wasn't suggesting Hall has some huge advantage. I've just seen a couple heel hook losses happen to Bill, like te DJ Jackson one. I think the match is going to be very close. If Cooper gets in some tight spots i easily easily see him putting himself into a guillotine or other sub just to create some opportunities.

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Yea, and you gotta think hall is on this. He has studied cooper. That's a hole that could cost him with hall.

We'll see. I'm stoked for this whole card. Absolutely phenomenal.

I would've liked to have seen Marcelo or Rafael mendes fighting somebody (or possibly each other 0.0)

Coop is too big for Hall. Coop will RNC or toehold him. Hall's always been over rated though, so its no surprise people are thinking he will win.

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Originally Posted by Gray

Coop is too big for Hall. Coop will RNC or toehold him. Hall's always been over rated though, so its no surprise people are thinking he will win.

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Why do you say that?

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Originally Posted by Gray

Coop is too big for Hall. Coop will RNC or toehold him. Hall's always been over rated though, so its no surprise people are thinking he will win.

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Overrated? How does Hall usually lose when he does? I think he's fun to watch and his instructionals are among the best.