Looks like barn cats been doing muddy waters for a while now

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Originally Posted by Brent Smith

Lol I was just playing. Theres no move called HPV..yet

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It's not a bad name like I said, kind of scary.

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Originally Posted by Brent Smith

Never thought of hitting it from invisible crackhead. Thats probably the ultimate set up because of how strong Invisible crackhead is.

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Starting the whole path from in invisible crackhead is huge especially since zombies from mission control fail alot of the times. But hitting crocs without getting the opposite hand on the mat is tough, at that point I would toss or swim to spider web and finish there. I usually only try to finish the arm bar if I was able to get to New York first. Basically east coast crocs and invisible crocs are the only crocs I would finish from the guard, the regular croc I would finish in spider web. Although arm crushes are dope from guard :-) Confusing?? Did I lose y'all?

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Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo

Starting the whole path from in invisible crackhead is huge especially since zombies from mission control fail alot of the times. But hitting crocs without getting the opposite hand on the mat is tough, at that point I would toss or swim to spider web and finish there. I usually only try to finish the arm bar if I was able to get to New York first. Basically east coast crocs and invisible crocs are the only crocs I would finish from the guard, the regular croc I would finish in spider web. Although arm crushes are dope from guard :-) Confusing?? Did I lose y'all?

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I follow ya and totally agree. the only thing I do differently is get the triangle locked in from invisible crackhead. but once I do that I still zombie. it would be the same thing as getting the triangle lock from invisible collar which I do all the time too. but not everybody can do that so that is why muddy waters is so effective. but we really should figure out an official name for having the triangle with both arms in so we don't always have to say "triangle with both arms in" it would just make life easier :)

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Originally Posted by nathan orchard

I follow ya and totally agree. the only thing I do differently is get the triangle locked in from invisible crackhead. but once I do that I still zombie. it would be the same thing as getting the triangle lock from invisible collar which I do all the time too. but not everybody can do that so that is why muddy waters is so effective. but we really should figure out an official name for having the triangle with both arms in so we don't always have to say "triangle with both arms in" it would just make life easier :)

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The Orchard.

I'm a creative genius :)

its the baby alligator is what i thought it was called

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Originally Posted by Jonrivello

its the baby alligator is what i thought it was called

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that is just one of the many finishes from that position. but the actual position needs the name. so like there is a baby croc off of the ___________. fill in the blank. besides that is just what one guy called it. It still need Eddies stamp on it.

eddie told shinya if he gets the double arm triangle, its game over, so maybe something like that

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Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren

The Orchard.

I'm a creative genius :)

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Mind blown :)

"Game over" isn't bad, sounds cool. I still like "muck" or something following the muddy waters theme. Ultimately, whatever Eddie decides to call it..

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Originally Posted by ScottRay

"Game over" isn't bad, sounds cool. I still like "muck" or something following the muddy waters theme. Ultimately, whatever Eddie decides to call it..

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yeah I don't really care what its called. it just needs an official name so I can move on with life. :) I am in this position almost daily so a name to go with it would be nice.