How to deal with wrestlers?

One hand to the jaw, one to the temple..push. All you gotta do is crack em a little bit then boom! RG all day like Eddie said!

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Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo

How do you beat wrestlers?

Cora already knows how, rubber guard. Just keep doing what you're doing Cora, you just need to get better and stronger :)

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This is my point, foget trying to learn to beat them at there own game in just one month. If you want to beat wrestlers next December, start now. But if you want to win in a month work on what she does best, Rubber guard. Patch up those weaknesses and perfect the stuff you know. Buy trying to out wrestle them, you are going with the "fight fire with fire" attitude, not the "fight fire with water/muddy water" attitude which is the essence of BJJ. When Eddie beat Royler he didn't try and beat Royler at his own game, Eddie beat him using his different game against Roylers game.
This is akin to an MMA fighter with 5 submission wins using wreslting and BJJ. Then because he is going against a great boxer, he decides he want to learn boxing in 3 months to prove he can punch. he then never even tries to take the fight to the ground and gets his face puched in. We have all seen this and don't understand it.

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Originally Posted by Matt Hester

Learn the oil check. Its the only way to get a wrestler to respect you.

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I can't seem to find the "oil check" in the MTS section.

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Originally Posted by cora sek

i can't seem to find the "oil check" in the mts section.

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lmao!

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Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo

How do you beat wrestlers?

Cora already knows how, rubber guard. Just keep doing what you're doing Cora, you just need to get better and stronger :)

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She is getting a lot stronger with her rubber guard. We polishing it up daily. Having only 30 minutes every day before she have to go to the gym, that is basically all the time we have to do anything. We also been polishing up her entry and all her attacks, trying to get her to focus on creating angles. We alternate between rubber guard and her defense (C cup/Heisman, grandby). Basically everything you told us to focus on, which are the guard retention and guard recovery. I think her attacks are good enough for this tournament, just need to get her defense up a little more.

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Originally Posted by Greg W

This is my point, foget trying to learn to beat them at there own game in just one month. If you want to beat wrestlers next December, start now. But if you want to win in a month work on what she does best, Rubber guard. Patch up those weaknesses and perfect the stuff you know. Buy trying to out wrestle them, you are going with the "fight fire with fire" attitude, not the "fight fire with water/muddy water" attitude which is the essence of BJJ. When Eddie beat Royler he didn't try and beat Royler at his own game, Eddie beat him using his different game against Roylers game.
This is akin to an MMA fighter with 5 submission wins using wreslting and BJJ. Then because he is going against a great boxer, he decides he want to learn boxing in 3 months to prove he can punch. he then never even tries to take the fight to the ground and gets his face puched in. We have all seen this and don't understand it.

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I know exactly what you mean bro. I see that a lot too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx_2GM6M1zc

a match I had against a D1 wrestler from Minnesota.

Slams were allowed, and encouraged. Promoter said he'd give a bonus for any slam k.o.'s so Immediate butt scooting, otherwise I like to look for the guillotine off of a TD and I ignore points. Though I have also lost to a couple strong wrestlers on points for exactly that reason.

10 P works, stick with it.

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Originally Posted by Cora Sek

I can't seem to find the "oil check" in the MTS section.

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Post of the year?

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Originally Posted by Greg W

This is my point, foget trying to learn to beat them at there own game in just one month. If you want to beat wrestlers next December, start now. But if you want to win in a month work on what she does best, Rubber guard. Patch up those weaknesses and perfect the stuff you know. Buy trying to out wrestle them, you are going with the "fight fire with fire" attitude, not the "fight fire with water/muddy water" attitude which is the essence of BJJ. When Eddie beat Royler he didn't try and beat Royler at his own game, Eddie beat him using his different game against Roylers game.
This is akin to an MMA fighter with 5 submission wins using wreslting and BJJ. Then because he is going against a great boxer, he decides he want to learn boxing in 3 months to prove he can punch. he then never even tries to take the fight to the ground and gets his face puched in. We have all seen this and don't understand it.

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I have to disagree. While nobody thinks Cora should ONLY use wrestling to beat a wrestler, it would be unwise IMO to not learn at least the basics of what wrestlers are trying to do to you (takedowns, wrist control, etc..) even only a month away.
Yes, Eddie used his game to beat Royler, but its not like Royler was throwing anything at him that he didn't know. It was all Jiu Jitsu. If Eddie was going against a leg lock specialist a month from now, you don't think he would spend some time on leg lock defense?

Listen, you don't have to become an expert wrestler. The vast majority of it doesn't apply. But if you don't spend some time learning to sprawl, shoot and finish a single and double, and maybe get pretty good with a John Smith style low single you're cheating yourself.