Any guys on HGH or Testosterone? Age management?

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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog

yay fucking science!

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Indeed

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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog

What many of you don't understand is what its like to train HARD when you 35 years old and over (especially when you've been training hard for most of your life). I was invincible in my 20's as well. You have no fucking idea what its like when your training hard consistantly with multiple injuries when you start to age, I didn't believe it myself until is started happening to me a few years ago. It does catch up, your recovery time slows waaaaaay down, and everything fucking hurts. If modern science can come up with a way to help you recover like you did when you were in your 20's , yay fucking science!

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preach. i am 30 years old and i am already constantly injured. never anything big, it seems, but always a sprained wrist or a tweaked knee or a busted rib, etc....

anything that can keep me from feeling like i can't be on the mat, i am willing to try it.

yay science.

Im interested in something that increases test to make one more aggressive. Snicker bars work for a few minutes but wear off.

As far as cheating, I don't see how it's cheating making your test levels the same as a when you are 20. So 20 year olds are cheating? Or people that are born with low test are cheating because they have a deficiency? Or people that are born with high test are cheating? IMHO I say no it's not, now if you are talking substance abuse that is a completely different subject that has nothing to do with this thread.
I understand why steroids are considered cheating but keeping the hormone level where it is suposed to be isn't cheating IMHO :)
We will see what you say after you are over 30 ;)

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Im interested in something that increases test to make one more aggressive. Snicker bars work for a few minutes but wear off.

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Fantastic

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Originally Posted by Dustin C.

As far as cheating, I don't see how it's cheating making your test levels the same as a when you are 20. So 20 year olds are cheating? Or people that are born with low test are cheating because they have a deficiency? Or people that are born with high test are cheating? IMHO I say no it's not, now if you are talking substance abuse that is a completely different subject that has nothing to do with this thread.
I understand why steroids are considered cheating but keeping the hormone level where it is suposed to be isn't cheating IMHO :)
We will see what you say after you are over 30 ;)

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Dustin I absolutley agree. If I had a Bone Deficiency or as I aged my bones became weaker and my tendons more brittle would it be cheating to take a drug to make my bones as strong as they were at 20?

Again, I am talking about bringing the Test levels back to that of an 18 - 25 year old. I am not talking about WWF shit here.

Herzog is a machine. The dude has been training for 25 years, has had both biceps re attached, hip surgery, knees, ankles the man is Evil Kineival. For someone like him to still Roll 4 times a week and train at 36 is really fucking amazing. If it were my career and my life you better beleive I would be looking for a way to keep my body at the same level as my desire!

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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog

And lol @ anyone that thinks Chris is a pussy, hes one of the scrappiest little mutha fuckas I know.

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Thanks Coach ;)

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Originally Posted by AllanSwann

ahah

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Allan what does this mean? Sorry I don't know if this is a laugh of understanding or a laugh of sarcasm... Not trying to be confrontational here I just want to know where we stand here.. :) Thanks Bro.

I'm another old guy. You young guys can not understand until you are our age. Everything hurts knees, hips, shoulders, elbows, neck, knuckles, wrists, ect constantly. Not only in the gym, but at work and during our normal lifes. Trying to do the same drills as you guys phisically hurts. Rolling hurts anymore. I get alot of crap at the gym for early tapouts. It's not because I can't escape an armbar, or shoulder lock. It's because if I get tweeked a little, I will be in pain for months. You young guys make fun of us for asking you to take it easy on our shoulder, or elbow when we roll. One day you guys will be there. All of the tweeks add up. I have been tempted to use those products also. But instead I just focus on drills that don't hurt, and rolling with guys that are my age or guys that I can trust not to over extend a sub.

I hear Herzog Kneivel is planning to jump his bike over a pool of sharks. Similar to what Fonzie did.