Fedor vs. Silva: Reflection Thread

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Originally Posted by James III

Ah man I can't believe it! I woke up this morning hoping in was all a bad dream but unfortunetly it was not.

There are several factors why he lost in my opinion. Firstly he has not regularly faced top level competition since his Pride days years ago. In any sport you will get rusty and slightly lose your edge if your not regularly kept on your toes. 2nd the big fighters today are generally more skilled then the ones in the past. I mean isn't Silva supposed to be black belt in BJJ and Judo? The guy is no Hong-man Choi or Semmy Schilt thats for sure. I don't think he can rely on his superior skill to overcome such a huge size disadvantage in todays MMA. Apparently also his training camp is supposed to be quite primative in contrast to modern camps although I don't too much about how he trains. Some think also that the Cage was a factor because bigger opponents can pin him up against it and force him to expel more energy whereas in a ring you can't really do that as easily.

It was hard to watch him take such a beating like that and not turn it around. I was also so much looking foward to seeing him against Overeem. If he does not retire surely the logical step would be to campaign at light heavy weight. Todays big guys are too skillfull for such small heavyweight like Fedor now.

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I agree with everything you said. And he knows this as well..what did he say...I think it's time that this ends. The guy has been in this game a very long time and you have to know when to walk away. Do we really want to see him lose like 9 fights in a row or something or get knocked out every fight like lidell? I hated seeing that happen to Lidell. Dude changed the LHW division forever and it was hard to watch.

I think that Fedor Co-Promoting was the non-negotiable point with dana and who could blame him. He may have had a lot of fun at the Fedor's expense last night but it was no different than the absolute butt abuse he took when brock got crushed. Not to mention how clearly devestated he was and giving cain a half-hearted good job. All of these things have to happen to grow the sport.

I wrote an article about how Cain's destruction of Brock just saved the heavyweight division in all of MMA and possibly legitimized MMA as the crowned jewel of combat sports...the heavyweights...now have to be complete fighters to win. Gone are the days of genetic freaks....you must be legitimately a big man with all-around-game. Fedor is now looking at men that are not only bigger than him, but match his skills. It's time to go.

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Originally Posted by Jay JC Chow

Actually I dont think any of us have any of those.

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yeah..isn't tapout and affliction t-shirts the most anti- 10th planet thing out there. No one was really shitting on fedor in this thread. I was pissed that dana came disrespectful on Fedor. But, he knows fedor better than any of us and was sore about the whole co-promotion thing from a business perspective. And if we got dealt with that way we would be a tad bit sore too. What if some dude came in our store and offered to by it for 10% of it's value and when we refused he went and talked shit about it. Then his store gets broken into..we may find ourselves chuckling to ourselves a little bit. Then we hear that the robbers shit in the lobby too...we might chuckle a little more. I needed a good nights sleep to put it in perspective. He didn't die...he lost a fight..God bless him and as he always said he wants to please God ...I don't know if he did but he has provided me with a lot of entertainment

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Originally Posted by Eric Perez

jAMES IS 100 PERCENT RIGHT DANA IS A POS. MOST OF YOU GUYS ON HERE GET YOUR MOHAWKS, WEAR YOUR TAPOUT SHIRTS, TRAIN A FEW MONTHS AND BELIEVE EVERYTHING DANA SPOONFEEDS YOU. FOR FANS OF THE SPORT WHO ACTUALLY WATCH MMA AND NOT JUST THE UFC KNOW THAT FEDOR DESERVES ALL THE RESPECT IN THE WORLD. TO SAY HE SHOULD DROP DOWN OR THAT HE IS NO GSP OR SILVA IS JUST FUCKIN DISRESPECTFUL. WE ARE ALL ENTITLED TO OUR OPINIONS BUT THAT KIND OF TALK IS JUST STUPID AND IGNORANT. TO SAY HE IS NOT GSP OR SILVA YOURE 100 PERCENT RIGHT. THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL FEDOR WOULD EVER GET KTFO BY MATT SERRA OR FLYING HEEL HOOKED BY SOMEONE WHO ISNT EVEN AN ABU DHABI CHAMP. FEDOR GOT CUT, CAUGHT IN A TRIANGLE BY A ADCC CHAMP AND BEAT BY A FUCKING GIANT. THATS NOTHING TO HOLD YOUR HEAD DOWN ABOUT. FUCK ALL YOU DANA LOVERS

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Your life must suck if you feel like you need to get on the internet and tell people fuck you. The mohawk I cut off 6 months ago had nothing to do with mma. I have never owned a tap out shirt and have been watching mma since the mid 90's and first started training in 2002. Who said What to make you think getting on here and telling people "Fuck all you Dana lovers" was justified? Because we have an opinion you dont agree with? You need to get a grip on reality dude! Your in "law enfocement"? Does that mean security gaurd? I Hope nobody would give you a badge and a gun.

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Originally Posted by Daniel Valdez

If Fedor doesn't retire, he needs take a serious look at dropping down to 205.

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I think he could make 205 easy. He could probably probably hit 185 with some help.

I agree Fedor deserves all the respect, he is an active legend like Sakuraba was. And the best HW in history for now.
But.. it would come this time, nobody is invincible forever. A lot of people understimated Silva, and Fedor last fights weren't that good, apart from Wedum he got saved by haymakers in poor performance fights.

I don´t know who was commentating the strikeforce transmition yesterday, in first round saying stupid things like justifying mistakes in his fight saying "He is Fedor he can do anything he wants"

Well... luckily.. we can still believe in the sport, if it was pure business like sometimes boxing is, Fedor would get to the final.

Congratulations to Pezão!! http://yfrog.com/gy8bivtj

dana white didn't do anything wrong. This isn't about personal opinions like many of you biased fans think it is. IT'S A BUSINESS. i wouldn't hype up fighters in rival organizations, that would be stupid. but I forgot that many of you guys "actually know Dana white personally where you know exactly how he feels." Some of you guys take things too serious. . .lol. DANA WHITE = AWESOME. FEDOR= AWESOME! END OF STORY.

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie

Your life must suck if you feel like you need to get on the internet and tell people fuck you. The mohawk I cut off 6 months ago had nothing to do with mma. I have never owned a tap out shirt and have been watching mma since the mid 90's and first started training in 2002. Who said What to make you think getting on here and telling people "Fuck all you Dana lovers" was justified? Because we have an opinion you dont agree with? You need to get a grip on reality dude! Your in "law enfocement"? Does that mean security gaurd? I Hope nobody would give you a badge and a gun.

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Agreed, that dude should seek enlightenment, or go to sherdog with that shit. hes very Frank the Man esk

I agree. I think he FRANK-THE-MAN-JAMESED all over this thread. If one can even do such a thing.

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Originally Posted by derrick ikwueme

been watching mma since 93, doing jiujitsu since 96, sorry, but i have no mowhawk or tapout shirt, Assumption is the mother of all uninformed retards, Keep your insults to yourself son

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Jiu jitsu since 96 and youre still a brown belt,,lol fucking loser,,SON

Some of you guys hate the fact that I have an opinion about Dana,,,,whatever. But most of you that dont agree with me are the same fools that came on here a few weeks ago talking shit about Jason Chambers because he said that Jiu Jitsu is the least effective part of MMA. You guys have no respect for legends of MMA or pioneers of 10th planet either. But you guys are entitled to your opinions right?