Shelby battles boy 3 straight times in competition!

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Originally Posted by 3rdeye

come on? The Joey Diaz one is kinda funny? I am just expressing my opinion. It just happens to have hit a nerve for some reason. I am not sure why. I know there were plenty of people on here who were upset over the boy in Iowa being forced to forfeit his shot at state because he was to face a girl.

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I can appreciate the bait and switch. You made a calculated and balanced sexist remark and once people took the bait, you started to articulate on how it was a valid argument but we both know you're just trolling and don't really give two shits about what you just said, especially a about "young males mind" (BTW the girl lost all the matches I think, so I'm pretty sure he'll be fine). Mission accomplished IMO. Well done sir.

On topic: How long has this girl been training?

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Originally Posted by 3rdeye

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To me this is about the kid that's life has forever changed due to the emotional stress he is going through.

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That would have to be a pretty weak individual... I've been beaten by girls in both academics and sports as a kid and even now- pretty much all my life. When I would lose a race to a girl, it wasn't like I was crushed. When I lost to a girl I was upset because I lost, not because I have a inherit notion of physical superiority.
Everyone has lost battles. And if this kid can't bounce back from a loss just because it's from a girl, then he has some serious problems...

So I was there but i didnt stick around to see....why did she have to face the same guy 3 times in a row? Was there no one else in thier weight class ?

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Originally Posted by JusLove

I can appreciate the bait and switch. You made a calculated and balanced sexist remark and once people took the bait, you started to articulate on how it was a valid argument but we both know you're just trolling and don't really give two shits about what you just said, especially a about "young males mind" (BTW the girl lost all the matches I think, so I'm pretty sure he'll be fine). Mission accomplished IMO. Well done sir.

On topic: How long has this girl been training?

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False. I stand by everything I have said, excluding things that were clearly a joke. There was no bait and switch going on. I am far from calculated, and I do truly give two shits about the impact on the young male mind. Well, maybe not on all young men but on ones that have moxie. We both know there is no difference "psychologically" between the impact of losing a wrestling match and losing a BJJ match. If we agree on one, there is no reason to disagree on the other. I believe those who do disagree with me are doing so simply because of one of three reasons. Either they are female, have a vested interest in the development of a young girl in BJJ "which there is nothing wrong with" or they saw that Eddie called me out and jumped on board, without thinking my brazen and somewhat sarcastic remark though.

Obvious troll is obvious. Great job Shelby!

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Originally Posted by 3rdeye

False. I stand by everything I have said, excluding things that were clearly a joke. There was no bait and switch going on. I am far from calculated, and I do truly give two shits about the impact on the young male mind. Well, maybe not on all young men but on ones that have moxie. We both know there is no difference "psychologically" between the impact of losing a wrestling match and losing a BJJ match. If we agree on one, there is no reason to disagree on the other. I believe those who do disagree with me are doing so simply because of one of three reasons. Either they are female, have a vested interest in the development of a young girl in BJJ "which there is nothing wrong with" or they saw that Eddie called me out and jumped on board, without thinking my brazen and somewhat sarcastic remark though.

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DUDE!

Stop taking away from the battle that Shelby ensued by posting bullshit in a thread that clearly depicts her going the distance with not only a male but a fucking guy with wrestling experience!!!! Come on! How huge is that? Wrestling experience in a submission grappling tournie? It's immense! Especially at the lower levels. I'm a blue belt myself. I hate wrestlers when I'm on the mat.

Your argument about little douche-bag's egos (not saying the kid in the video was a douche-bag. He seemed like a talented opponent.) only solidifies the fact that kids who would consider harming themselves after a loss to a girl have deep seeded underlying issues already(pre-existing!!!).

Leave it alone and give her some fucking credit bro! Shelby...much respect! Keep kicking ass!

These were not points matches, submission or draw. and when there is a tie for first you keep rolling the 4 minute matches until there is a sub. :) Hope that clears up the whole points/subs thing dilemma. Maybe we could ignore 3rdeye and the pee hole stuff he is saying.

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Originally Posted by 3rdeye

I am not a sexist! I think if women want to roll with men that is 100% fine. That being said, I do not think it is good for girls to roll with boys. I truly think it could cause some psychological damage.

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You don't even roll, what the fuck would you know?

Getting smashed goes with the territory, there's a reason why ego deluded tools like you will never set foot inside of a real gym.

Great job Shelby.

[QUOTE=IMO. Well done sir.

On topic: How long has this girl been training?[/QUOTE]

She has been training for a little over a year.. She does 3 martial arts (American Kenpo/MT/JJ) and she is choosing to take time off from her kenpo (doing it for 4 yrs and does very well in tournaments, especialy the sparring..again VS. guys) to concentrate on her 10th Planet JJ.. She always has diffuclty with the wrestlers, she is the only female in the JJ class so she is rolling with guys like Mike Dewitt & Nathan Wallner....so she is usually getting smashed...but she keeps going.. the guys all respect her and help her out anyway they can.. I think we're going to see her get crisper in the next few months when she trains full time JJ (6 days a week, her choice) ... PS - there was another girl in her division/weight class but she dropped out..so they went 3x , she lost the first 2 in the last few seconds and went to a draw on the 3rd

when i first got into martial arts, i took the attitude that "competing against a girl is a no-win situation... if you win, great you beat a girl, and if you lose, you just lost to a girl!" but then I live-rolled with a girl... I started off thinking in my head that I'm taking it easy on her... and then all the sudden i was swept. I quickly realized that I didn't have to take it easy because not only is this girl harder better stronger faster but she was also quite cute... Women in sports is a win-win.

"I believe all women should get rights but I don't think it should stop there! Give em rights! Give em lefts! Hell, throw an elbow! And when you've got her on the ground, be quick with that soccer-kick!"