Steven Seagal, I just cant take you seriously

Maybe someone could confirm this but I could almost swear that I heard once that Seagal said at a party in the early 90's that he could beat up Jean claude Van damm. However when he responded said ok then let's do it Seagal then backed down and refused to fight him????

If this actually happened that's reason enough for me not to respect a guy like that.

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie

In order to isolate some ones wrist you have to control their entire body in order to do that you have to be on the ground...

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Not necessarily. While I am not speaking for Aikido, (as I haven't really studied it much), there are plenty of joint locks that are plenty effective while standing. That being said, however, most of the standing joint locks are impractical and aren't practiced properly to begin with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymA5vA4ppbM
im looking for the audio where Stalone confirms it.

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Originally Posted by Don Blankenship

Just because someone has been into Martial Arts a long ass time doesn't mean they know stuff about the sport of MMA. SS has never fought a MMA match. I wouldn't rely on someone to help me play chess by asking a checker player. Poor ass analogy but fuck isn't answering the door in your underwear awesome when a group of local church goers knock and knock and knock?

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Greg Jackson is 0-0 and 0 also as far as I know.

http://strikingthoughts.wordpress.co...steven-seagal/
the video was taken down but you can read the quotes.

"But I remember once, at my home in Miami, I believe it was in ’96 or’97, Van Damme was there with Seagal, Willis, Schwarzenegger, Shaquille O’Neal, Don Johnson and Madonna… it was a heck of a party. Van Damme was tired of Seagal saying he could kick his ass and went right up to him and offered him the chance to step outside so he could wipe the floor with him, or should I say wipe the backyard with him. Seagal made some excuse and left. His destination was some Ocean Drive nightclub in Miami. Van Damme, who was completely berserk, tracked him down and again offered him a fight, and again Seagal pulled a Houdini. Who would win? I have to say I believe Van Damme was just too strong and Seagal wanted no part of it. That’s just my opinion." Stalone

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie

But I remember once, at my home in Miami, I believe it was in ’96 or’97, Van Damme was there with Seagal, Willis, Schwarzenegger, Shaquille O’Neal, Don Johnson and Madonna… it was a heck of a party. Van Damme was tired of Seagal saying he could kick his ass and went right up to him and offered him the chance to step outside so he could wipe the floor with him, or should I say wipe the backyard with him. Seagal made some excuse and left. His destination was some Ocean Drive nightclub in Miami. Van Damme, who was completely berserk, tracked him down and again offered him a fight, and again Seagal pulled a Houdini. Who would win? I have to say I believe Van Damme was just too strong and Seagal wanted no part of it. That’s just my opinion.

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Sounded like it was a fun party

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie

Just because its been around a long time doesn't make it good just old. What part of aikido do you think is effective the only reasonable argument I have heard is wrist locks, ok you bend someones wrist and it huts and you can break it we get it we can move on now. Show me one effective aikido path to a wrist lock.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7GfQdB9a8Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SivWAcPlzFg

if you limit your yourself because of emotional conviction you are only gonna limit yourself as a martial artist.

Show me one video of Roy Dean taking somebody down with a wrist lock in competition. I already conceded wrist locks would be effective in a ground fighting situation. Show me one aikido technique on the ground not a bjj black belt implementing wrist locks on the ground. Im not a martial artist my interests are in combat science.

call it whatever you want. either way you're restricting your own learning. roy dean wouldn't teach it unless he thought it was effective. those wrist locks on the ground are based on standing akido wrist locks. It's a fusion of bjj and akido. Theres nothing wrong with mixing techniques and making them combat applicable. That's what mma is.

remember how people said tkd is completely useless until people starting throwing meanass spinning back kicks in mma? There ARE techniques that can be used. What's important is that you recognize that and don't throw away the entire martial art as a joke when there are useful elements. It's important not to do that with people too.