Any of my 10TH Planet brothers that Live around Dallas/Ft Worth love da herb an Nick

I don't post on here very often and I'm usually against airing dirty laundry on public forums. I just don't want anyone else to get burnt by someone because we haven't spoken up. I was with Joe and the other Indy OG's at the beginning. Everything Joe has said is 100% true. Joe and I were the ones that talked to Eddie in St. Louis. Bill basically eves dropped the whole conversation, and that's how he was able to step in as moon head. We didn't know him, so we gave him a chance. I feel like an idiot looking back on it now. Just learn from our mistakes. Talk is cheap.

Time to bail on this thread…No need to air out dirty laundry in from of the world. This shit is best resolved over Advanced Cellular Repair Technology….ACRT.
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Originally Posted by Joe Durham

His videos will prove nothing. My guess is they will be of us training or competing...keep in mind we had just moved to a new hella huge spot so if the student base looks "decent" it was mainly because of our move. That and people did start showing up that hadnt for a while just to check out the new coach. As time past...true colors shined. Tammy, the previous gym owner doesn't put up with shit and they butted heads constantly...if you knew Bill's true personality, you would understand why. Bill was let go by Eddie because of a simple fact...the gym owner and most of the students that were loyal wasn't happy with Bill as the coach.

He will say it was because of his divorce. That is not true. He also states he rolled with all his students every class. That is not true. I think I rolled with Bill once...maybe twice. He would roll with a lot of the new guys though. Im not bashing on his ability to coach or his skill set in jj. Not my place...we rolled once or twice only and I am confident it was a stale mate. He was a good "coach" as in getting our cardio on spot...which is ironic because he is a cigarette smoker. But he was also good at motivation and the coaching aspect of being an Instructor.

Anyways the point is his vids wont prove shit...he is being called out for being a liar on multiple things by multiple people...and he is delusional and wont go away.

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Just got off the phone with Tammy and she is giving a video testimony on what I did for 10Th Planet Indy!!! Call me a poser! I did over hear you talking to Eddie about Gary, if I hadn't butted in 10th Planet Indy was no more, Eddie had just said you were gone... Tammy will state the rest. As far as Nick I was trying to let a fan hang with him... Shame on me!

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Just got off the phone with Tammy and she is giving a video testimony on what I did for 10Th Planet Indy!!! Call me a poser! I did over hear you talking to Eddie about Gary, if I hadn't butted in 10th Planet Indy was no more, Eddie had just said you were gone... Tammy will state the rest. As far as Nick I was trying to let a fan hang with him... Shame on me!

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No, you were trying to get him to get nick some weed. Call it what it is.

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My bad, there's so many lies to keep track of, so 2 times.

That was before I got the truth from everyone else involved. It's amazing there is always your side.....then everyone else's.

Keep digging your heels in Bill. You have zero credibility, the more you talk the more you open everyone's eyes to who and what you really are. Thanks for exposing yourself as a conman.

You were told you never again been a moonhead and run a 10th Planer Affiliate for a reason, now everyone knows. Thank you.

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Eddie told me he wasn't giving me my affiliation because of my actions against you and Joe. What actions? Another lie, cause I haven't done shit to you period! Or anything to Joe for that matter. Like I said tammy's vid will be posted prob Monday! She is appalled by hearing this...

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No, you were trying to get him to get nick some weed. Call it what it is.

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2 fer...

Is there a way we can ban someone through group conscious? This has become quite ridiculous. Hilarious, but ridiculous none the less.

No more he said she said bullshit, actual words out of her mouth!

Her testimonial...if it happens, changes nothing. You still got caught, again after being busted by Eddie, running around telling people you are a purple belt and ran 10th planet Indy after you were fired. On top of all the other lies. Bill this is NOT going away.

Those are not misunderstandings, those are lies.

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No more he said she said bullshit, actual words out of her mouth!

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Seems like its "He said, Everyone else said" but maybe its all a big misunderstanding. Zog is still fired though.

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Seems like its "He said, Everyone else said" but maybe its all a big misunderstanding. Zog is still fired though.

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That's really all I care about.

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That's really all I care about.

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I hope you're referring to the fact that Zog is still fired ;)

Ok I'm running to the store, try not to lie until I get back.

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Seems like its "He said, Everyone else said" but maybe its all a big misunderstanding. Zog is still fired though.

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Yessss! ^+1. I am curious why "the masta" hasn't gave his input yet. Maybe some things are better left unsaid eh Bill?

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Ok I'm running to the store, try not to lie until I get back.

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Rofl. You guys are all fuckin comedians! I love it

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Her testimonial...if it happens, changes nothing. You still got caught, again after being busted by Eddie, running around telling people you are a purple belt and ran 10th planet Indy after you were fired. On top of all the other lies. Bill this is NOT going away.

Those are not misunderstandings, those are lies.

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Once again, since your seminar in Roch Feb 2011 I have not told anyone I am a purple. The closest you can get me on that, is telling Dylan I was shooting for Brown.... But I was shooting for Brown. I haven't told ANYONE I was still Moon head over Indy since May of 2012...

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Once again, since your seminar in Roch Feb 2011 I have not told anyone I am a purple. The closest you can get me on that, is telling Dylan I was shooting for Brown.... But I was shooting for Brown. I haven't told ANYONE I was still Moon head over Indy since May of 2012...

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I told you not to lie until I get back!

If anyone took anything I said the wrong way, then maybe I'm partially to blame, but I haven't lied once! Not my character!

Apparently Brandon is a liar.

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I told you not to lie until I get back!

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I haven't :)

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If anyone took anything I said the wrong way, then maybe I'm partially to blame, but I haven't lied once! Not my character!

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You have no character, you have lied several times on this thread alone.

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Once again, since your seminar in Roch Feb 2011 I have not told anyone I am a purple. The closest you can get me on that, is telling Dylan I was shooting for Brown.... But I was shooting for Brown. I haven't told ANYONE I was still Moon head over Indy since May of 2012...

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Who only shoots for brown?
Your goal is to get to brown?Why not black?
Even if you didnt directly say "Im a purple" .. this is misleading in a way that is on par with lying. No?

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I hope you're referring to the fact that Zog is still fired ;)

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Of course

I responded to Brandon. We spoke all of maybe two min. And I know I didn't state my rank or say that I was still the head over Indy. I prob did say used to be the Indy head, but that's the extent of that.

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Who only shoots for brown?
Your goal is to get to brown?Why not black?
Even if you didnt directly say "Im a purple" .. this is misleading in a way that is on par with lying. No?

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I was referring to that test at HQ. I honestly wasn't trying to mislead Dylan. It would have been UBER STUPID!!! I'm not stupid.

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I was referring to that test at HQ. I honestly wasn't trying to mislead Dylan. It would have been UBER STUPID!!! I'm not stupid.

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What test at hq? How can you "shoot for brown" as a blue? This makes ZERO sense to me.
You dont get to go test for your brown belt when you're a blue belt

Bill you can attempt to talk us into a stupor with your claims of "proof" but we're 14 pages in and I haven't seen a bit of proof. Call me a skeptic but I get a feeling you don't have it. And this may be a BOLD claim but I'm going to say it. You don't know Nick Diaz. He's not your "boy" and if you were going to make a claim to being friends with a fighter and one you hang out with on the regular, I would pick one that doesn't live across the country.

Also I find it funny that through 14 pages you haven't had a single person pop up and say "hey guys what Bill is saying is true. I can back him up on it". If you really want to blow us away, get Nick Diaz to do it!

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What test at hq? How can you "shoot for brown" as a blue? This makes ZERO sense to me.
You dont get to go test for your brown belt when you're a blue belt

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Uhmmm, Nathan Orchard did exactly that as a Ronin none the less!

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Bill you can attempt to talk us into a stupor with your claims of "proof" but we're 14 pages in and I haven't seen a bit of proof. Call me a skeptic but I get a feeling you don't have it. And this may be a BOLD claim but I'm going to say it. You don't know Nick Diaz. He's not your "boy" and if you were going to make a claim to being friends with a fighter and one you hang out with on the regular, I would pick one that doesn't live across the country.

Also I find it funny that through 14 pages you haven't had a single person pop up and say "hey guys what Bill is saying is true. I can back him up on it". If you really want to blow us away, get Nick Diaz to do it!

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Ok how about a Glide?

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...the whole time I was coach there training 8 hours a week rolling everyday, I was tapped one time by Ben Roberts 6'4 365 lbs... That's it. No poser here chump!

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you trained 8 hours a week? as a coach? :/

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Uhmmm, Nathan Orchard did exactly that as a Ronin none the less!

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Pretty sure he got a purple belt first....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owNO5s3eln4

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Pretty sure he got a purple belt first....

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Nope went straight to brown!

I will say this as far as rank goes: I was promoted by a non 10P instructor to purple. At that time (and even now) I didn't feel up to the task nor did I feel I deserved the rank. I consistently get smashed by Derek ' blue belts and given the chance to roll with any of you murderers would probably yield the same outcome, if I get the chance to roll with Eddie at the Midwest Training Camp my skills and abilities will probably not be to that of a purple belt in his eyes. I've asked derek to demote me and he refused. Does this really take away from my credibility or standing in the community? I hope not...

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Sadly false, Nathan got his Blue, Purple, Brown and Black from Eddie. I have never seen Eddie jump a rank on someone. Even when people are monsters like Nathan, he still brings them up through the ranks. Nathan had his blue belt for 2 weeks before getting his purple.

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Uhmmm, Nathan Orchard did exactly that as a Ronin none the less!

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Two weeks Phill, that's pretty much the same promotion. Maybe it was Mike Dewitt, I remember Eddie posting about how amazing they did against the HQ purples. Even if no had done it, it's not bad to shoot for the moon is it?