This argument has been used in the past by prominent figures often before. replace the word "homeless" in your argument with jewish, black, or gay and you will see what I mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dean Nowling
This argument has been used in the past by prominent figures often before. replace the word "homeless" in your argument with jewish, black, or gay and you will see what I mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dean Nowling
im not white... but most of our homeless people are. The point is they made a law to try and protect the hundreds of children that play at that park AND there are atleast 3 kitchens for the homeless within walking distance of that park that I can think of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Isaiah Mendoza
I didn't say you were. You don't have to be white to stereotype an entire community. 3 kitchens huh? Well that park could have been a fourth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dean Nowling
I can admit, I do not live in that area, so you probably do have a more accurate perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dean Nowling
This event was clearly none of those things that you mentioned with the homeless problem though.
Anyway, I am 100% into individuals' rights and personal responsibility.
My kids would never be in an Orlando park without close supervision anyhow.
I've been there, and that is not an inviting city.
I do not believe we need police to keep my kids safe at the park,
I will take responsibility for that myself. The homeless are not
the only threat to the safety of the public.
The "safety of the kids" speech is old hat for politicians, and it's a weak arguement.
YOU are responsible for the safety of yourself and your family, not the police,
not the city, not anyone you could ever think of except for yourself.
The kids that go to that park are mostly from surrounding schools, the parents arent there. They DID have the right to feed them for many years, it got out of control and attracted alot of bad people. They had to rake the play ground every morning and collect the hypodermic needles left behind from the homeless. People were being sexually harassed and some molested in the bathrooms... The list goes on and on. Im a salesman for a dairy company and I donate alot of product to certified kitchens and churches downtown. and youre right, Orlando is not a very inviting cityQuote:
Originally Posted by Stephen G.
I have zero respect for people that break the law intentionally to somehow advance there position... Stay tuned, this idiot will be back around Thanksgiving
Do you have any respect for Martin Luther King?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dean Nowling
Dont compare MLK to some douche bag feeding drug addicts in a public park
First off, I don't believe I'm a part of many weed threads. I don't smoke! I believe Pot should be legal. Its safer than alcohol etc. etc.! Yes I'm fine with a person trying to cheat a drug test if they smoke pot!!! Not a crack head!! There's a difference. I won't be taking part in any protest to legalize it either. If I did, it would be with in my right to demonstrate. But I would know if I did demonstrate there would be consequences. My first post on this thread was dead nuts on this video!! If you knew me you would know I'm not for the "Man". My eyes are wide open... I see all the bullshit. I love my Country but I know the Government is fucked up and corrupt. Now Ehsan Karam says in one his post "Establishment, Establishment, you always know whats best!"...I don't believe the "Establishment" knows what is best!!!! But you can Not have NO "establishment"!!! If I have to explain why that is, then you should just disagree with me because common sense didn't take hold. When I lived in Florida you would always see in the news a home owner fighting the homeowners association about flying a American flag. I believe they should be able to fly a American flag within reason. But I wouldn't buy a house in Florida without having a homeowners association. I want to protect my investment, and I don't want my neighborhood to turn into the hood or live next to Sanford and Son! And AJ comparing the civil rights movement of 50's 60's and 70's to people demonstrating about, doing what they want when they want and where they want, because that's how Jesus did it! The only similarity is they are both protesting. Debating MORALS....shit if we can't agree this was a stunt, and had nothing to do with feeding kids or the homeless we would never agree on morals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Isaiah Mendoza
I didn't. You seem to be jumping to conclusions. YOU were the one who made a definitive statement about having zero respect for people who break the law for the sake of their own position. That was your statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dean Nowling
Martin Luther King and the entire civil rights movement was built upon civil disobedience and the act of knowingly breaking laws to further their own position. Do you understand the conflict that most of us are facing now? In order to be ethically and morally consistent, you must have fair and balanced rules. So, without comparison between a "douche bag" who's giving out free food and MLK... do you have respect for MLK?
If the answer is YES, then your statement is inconsistent and not true.
If the answer is NO, then you are ethically consistent within your stated values however your barometer for assessing civil rights is probably in question since you would apparently leave no gray area for a possibility of a law being wrong or immoral.
You need to read the post again. I gave you a complimentQuote:
Originally Posted by Stephen G.