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You dumb asses! Votes are not counted. Back to your cubicals!
haha O shit here we go again I thought you were banned for good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taylor Culbertson
I had what those in the medical field like to call, " a rough time". I went fucking crazy! Don't worry, I am back now and 100% sane!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie
look at all the butthurt in this thread.... The topic is "Will Ron Paul be president?"
The answer is no because he will not receive enough votes from the electoral college to win....If he wins I'll get a tatoo on my forehead that says I'm a "butthurt neckbeard with no life and a picture of ron paul under it, and know nothing about politics, sociology, economics, international relations, or domestic policy."
Regardless of whether his' policies seem constitutional, or if he is an internet sensation that has a large backing from internet users, or just a crazy ass old man with misguided policies for our country....
Saved post for proof. If Ron Paul gets in and you don't get this tattooed...Quote:
Originally Posted by The kza
I hope he wins just because of this!! hahahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Jay Chow
I understand your refusal to debate me. You do not have the ability.Quote:
"I'am not going to debate this issue any further on this thread with someone who I consider to be psychotic and beneath me and who clearly cannot comphrehend the obvious difference between a fact and an opinion. Dictating a personal opinion to others as a fact is sign of ignorance and lower intelligence in my eyes. I will discuss this no further with you here so don't waste your time. "
Did you really base your entire rebuttal off of the assumption that I'm trying to shove my opinion down someone's throat, all the while labeling it as fact?
The original comments that sparked your anger, began like this: "Personally, I disagree with Ron Paul on abortion. I believe that children are the property of their parents." -- Note: I begin by acknowledging that the following statements are my personal beliefs, de facto opinions. To which your reply was thus:Quote:
"Do you know what an opinion is? ... Is this your own opinion again? I thought we had covered this. ... Yet again opinion. ... Yet again that is your OPINION. ... Well no shit Sherlock and that for once isn't an opinion but a scientific fact! ... What the fuck do you not understand about the difference between fact and opinion? ... not the right of any parent in my opinion. ... (My opinion) ... Don't take my opinion for it. ... cannot comphrehend the obvious difference between a fact and an opinion."
Your reply was a hateful attack on my beliefs and intelligence. A critically thinking human being would have tried to challenge and debate my beliefs with his own. Instead, you chose to use baseless insults (at least make them funny), as many ignorant schoolchildren have done before you. I replied with "Your ad hominem demonstrates your lack of critical thought. If you have a problem with what I said, try attacking the issue instead of my honor. It gives you more credibility." -- I was only trying to give you a little advice on how you might bring more substance into your life and mind. I'm sorry if your response to positive guidance is anger.Quote:
"I really hope you're just some pathetic troll because if you truly believe murdering babies and toddlers is morally acceptable then you are one truly disturbed and psychotic human being. Funny what people can say hiding behind their keyboard isn't it?"
The rest of my reply was merely elaborating on my beliefs so that you might lighten up and fully understand them. However, it was for naught. You, in your thinly veiled close-mindedness, had already decided that I was a psycho.
I don't feel the need to reiterate that my personal beliefs are opinions every two sentences to compensate for someone's lack of attention span or reading comprehension. It is understood. All of my beliefs are based on my interpretation of facts, no different than anyone else's. But that wasn't the point. You missed it entirely. It doesn't matter what a person's opinions or beliefs may be when they are running for public office as long as they uphold their oath to the Constitution. The Constitution is written in black and white, and it is not open for interpretation. You follow it, or you do not. Ron Paul is one of the only people in the history of government who holds the rule of the Constitution above his own beliefs. You can absorb this or discard it. It only makes a difference to you.
Following are a sampling of comments you made to me:Quote:
"I believe like most on this planet that love is what makes the world go round. I see all humanity as a great big extended family. I'am not bound by race or nationality. I believe in treating others how you yourself want to be treated."
You could never know of the amount of love and respect I possess for the human race. You are not mentally or emotionally capable of ever feeling that. Do you understand me, boy?Quote:
"I really hope you're just some pathetic troll... then you are one truly disturbed and psychotic human being... you're one of those types of losers... Wow you really are fucked up... someone who I consider to be psychotic and beneath me... "
I agree.Quote:
"Dictating a personal opinion to others as a fact is sign of ignorance and lower intelligence in my eyes."
And I think that you need to devote some time to coming to terms with yourself before you attempt to insult the beliefs of others. If you need any council on this, you can PM me and I'll try to help you.
Oh lawdy!!!!!!!
Guys i already won this debate stop arguing we already know ron paul is the worst person to be in the running
And that he wont win and hes a stupid ass conservative
That is all
Jesse ventura '12
Umm I just agree with Corky here. Ventura 2012 would be fucking awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Corky
He nvr will though cuz he is a 9/11 truther
LMFAO!!! Your comment was hilarious! I know I said I wouldn't continue with this but I simply can't resist one more comment.
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Originally Posted by Nathan Kelso
lol if that is what your delicate ego wishes to believe then by all means go ahead! The reality is I really can't be bothered to as I have done so many times before with people like you. I have nothing to gain from it. Have to admit never thought I would see someone with your kind of opinions on this site though
Fucking hell this has been hilarious! I appreciate the laughs but I think you should take your own advice here and no I will not PM a psychopath thank you ( My mummy told me to stay away from strange men when I was a little kid you see!!) I love how you also missed the fact that you stated a completely untrue fact ( That crime has gone down since abortion was legalised) when in fact figures released from the Metropolitan Police commision show how crime has increased in London every decade since world war two. Sorry those facts spoiled your Utopian vision there Dr Evil! You really are quite dense arn't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan KelsoDid you really base your entire rebuttal off of the assumption that I'm trying to shove my opinion down someone's throat, all the while labeling it as fact?
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Nope learn to read comments correctly Adolf!
Actually it was this that annoyed me at firstQuote:
Originally Posted by Nathan Kelso
Expect it dosen't sit right with a few others either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan Kelso
Nope someone who hasn't met you're kind online before might be bothered to debate you. I just can't be bothered. The argument is the same each time. Nice attempt to flatter your own ego but you're living in delusion. I don't really give a shit if you think my reply was a hatefull attack on your beliefs. I find it funny that you being such a whiney bitch about it! Grow some balls faggot!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan Kelso
Sorry I'am closed minded to parents killing their own children after they have been born. What can I say I'm an extremist huh???Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan Kelso
lol at you thinking you know someone you have never met sitting behind a keyboard!! You really are a whiney little bitch arn't you? Spare me your emotional drama and try to act with some form of dignity Susan. This isn't a soap opera so spare me the amateur dramatics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan Kelso
QUOTE=Nathan Kelso;83281]And I think that you need to devote some time to coming to terms with yourself before you attempt to insult the beliefs of others. If you need any council on this, you can PM me and I'll try to help you.
lol @ the word mummy.
if he wins I'll be able to get so high that it won't even matter, and sadly, I'm a supporter of his idealsQuote:
Originally Posted by Jay Chow
And one more, and one more, etc. I know the routine.Quote:
LMFAO!!! Your comment was hilarious! I know I said I wouldn't continue with this but I simply can't resist one more comment.
I didn't miss anything. I simply didn't feel the need to waste time debating with a rude individual who already thinks he knows everything. You'll notice that I refrained from tearing apart most of your "arguement", choosing instead to focus on your lack of consistency and tact. Though if you insist...Quote:
I love how you also missed the fact that you stated a completely untrue fact ( That crime has gone down since abortion was legalised) when in fact figures released from the Metropolitan Police commision show how crime has increased in London every decade since world war two.
First of all, this is America. And a thread pertaining to an American election. Great Britain has a higher violent crime rate than most coutries, including the United States. This can be attributed to multiple factors. Not least of which, I believe, is that you have less freedom and more government interference. GB is the poster child for Socialism. A nanny state of epic proportions. One surveillance camera for every fourteen people. Outlawed firearms. A populace shackled by government dependency.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...worst-families
You and your people have already accepted the barcodes. You are a living example to Americans of how NOT to act. The idea of freedom is growing exponentially in America, even as it perishes elsewhere around the world. Please report to the Ministry of Love.
As for the U.S...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States
The landmark case of Roe Vs. Wade gave way to the legalization of abortion in America in 1973. As you can see from the graph in the provided link, crime peaked in America in 1990, before steadily beginning to decrease. Children aborted in 1973 would have been 17 years old in 1990. Teenagers are responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime. Voila. Not saying that abortion is the reason for it. There are factors to consider too numerous to count. I only stated before that the numbers do correlate. I've said nothing untrue despite how much you desire it.
Children cannot protect themselves. They are wholly dependent upon their parents for everything. Food, shelter, defense, guidance. Therefore, children are owned by their parents. Just as an individual dependent upon the government for his survival is property of the state. It is an extremely simple concept to grasp. Oh yeah, by the way, that's my opinion.
You are only trying to snatch for scraps with which to attack me because you cannot find a logical flaw in my belief. I suggest you take a moment to step back from this conversation and ask yourself, "Am I someone that I could respect?" I hope that one day you embrace maturity and find meaning in your life.
I do train jits quite a bit. Thanks bro.Quote:
You really are quite dense arn't you?
Arguing with you isn't very fun. It's kind of like kicking a dead dog.
Ventura is a Ron Paul supporter. He even dedicated a book to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Corky
http://www.businessinsider.com/jesse...a-video-2011-4
You got me Bitch!! I just can't resist you're too funny!!! I appreciate the amusement by the way!! Keep it up!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan Kelso
You cracked me up when you chose to use Wikipedia as your source! Did you even bother to critque where that research came from? Take on board the criticisms etc. It dosen't even matter now anyway because you didn't originally say just America you made a blanket statement that crime has gone down since abortion was legalised. Well how come that's not the case in the UK and I suspect other countries as well? A small flaw in your plan that destroys credibility whether you believe it has or not. Not very scientific is it?
I love how you actually believe that!! Ok dumbass here it is again. What I believe to be the logical flaw in your belief. I think MURDER OF INNOCENT BABYS AND TODDLERS IS WRONG OK!!!! I'm not even religious but thou shall not kill is a pretty common philosophy in most Religions East and West. Murder is also illegal by the way once a child has been born you know? For those that missed this psychos viewpoint see below.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan Kelso
So you think it's ok to kill your child in the Bathtub? Classy guy arn't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan Kelso
Like most I don't think any human has the right to kill a child after they have been born let alone 2 years. I class you in the same category as a child molester, A Nazi Eugenicist etc, in fact anyone who believes they have the right to harm another innocent human being. Are we clear here bitch? Debating with you is like debating with a Child molester as to why he shouldn't be allowed to do what he does. I have no interest in doing that thank you.
Erm that was not what I meant by the word 'dense' but still funny none the less. Did you kill that Dog then as it was your property and under 2 years old? You have a very fragile ego by the way. That is usually associated with weak minds. You have insulted my intelligence and called me a kid etc but I haven't bothered to dispute that have I? Can you figure out why Sherlock?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan Kelso
This is boring now as this Psycho loser has already dug his own grave on this issue. Nothing more really needs to be said. What a shame his parents didn't decide to terminate his pathetic existence when he was in the bathtub and we all might have been spared this bullshit discussion!!!!!! That was a joke by the way before you start crying about it!!!
Oh Jesus, here come the floodworks.Quote:
You got me Bitch!! I just can't resist you're too funny!!! I appreciate the amusement by the way!! Keep it up!!
Okay, I know that you can at least read. It comes from the United States Bureau of Justice Statistics. Crime has been falling since the early nineties in every area besides illegal drug violations.Quote:
You cracked me up when you chose to use Wikipedia as your source! Did you even bother to critque where that research came from?
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty=kftp&tid=3
You're grasping at straws. It's obvious that I was talking about America. Why would I give a damn about the crime rates in Poland or Nigeria? Brits will always have more crime until they allow their government to stack them in cages. Abortion isn't going to help them. They are all slaves.Quote:
It dosen't even matter now anyway because you didn't originally say just America you made a blanket statement that crime has gone down since abortion was legalised. Well how come that's not the case in the UK and I suspect other countries as well?
"..here it is... what I believe to be the logical flaw... I think..."Quote:
Ok dumbass here it is again. What I believe to be the logical flaw in your belief. I think MURDER OF INNOCENT BABYS AND TODDLERS IS WRONG OK!!!!
No. I would protect my child fiercely, give it love and discipline, and hope it grows into a person of substance. Someone else might neglect their kid, choosing instead to smoke crack and stay out all night. Someone else might send their child to boarding school to avoid responsibility. Someone else might drown their kid in a bathtub because they are too emotionally unstable to raise it.Quote:
So you think it's ok to kill your child in the Bathtub?
It's called freedom. You don't know what it is because you've never experienced it. You don't agree with me, and I wouldn't force you to. I don't think the government should force you to agree with them either.
Yes, I figured you were a child. Now concentrate on growing up.Quote:
You have insulted my intelligence and called me a kid etc but I haven't bothered to dispute that have I? Can you figure out why Sherlock?
Your "argument" is dead. Please refer to the following material. I urge you to find acceptance.
http://www.memorialhospital.org/libr...ess-the-3.html
Going around shooting people falls under "freedom" too, should that be legal? That's why we have Call of Duty and Condoms man, you can't go around thinking you should have 100% freedom, or crazy fucks like you would be RAMPANT.
Thinking that killing your kid is okay if it's below 2 years is the most ridiculous viewpoint I've ever heard, and I've heard all about Michelle Bachmann. How about becoming more aware of the fact that if you have unprotected sex, you should get that shit checked as soon as possible and abort as early as possible IF you are not ready. When it becomes an actual human being in and out of the womb, it then gets the right to live, as it should do. If it needs care or to be put up for adoption, why not? But you can't just kill it, you need some Yoga and Marijuana my man, you have a lot of demons inside you.
If you actually believed what you are saying, I'd argue fully, but you are obviously trolololling, you divvy.
LMFAO seriously have you considered a career in comedy Dr Death?? Judging by you're comments I think you would give everyone a good laugh!!!
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Originally Posted by Nathan Kelso
Flawless logic bitch but if crime rates were falling due to abortion why did it take till the 1990's for it to do so? You do know the year abortion was leglised in different states right? Maybe it was the weather, different style of company logos or maybe the boybands like the Backstreet boys helped calm people down? Two can play this game!!! I personally believe the ghost of Elvis decided to use it's positive energy on the country how about that bitch?
Well Einstein you made a blanket statement and if you claim crime rates are falling only due to abortion laws (which is what you implyed) when in fact in other countries they are going up it kind of presents a flaw in your logic really dosen't it? If it was falling primarily due to legalisation of abortion without other taking other factors into consideration then logically the same pattern should follow in other Western countries dumbass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan Kelso
But would you? You come across as quite psychotic and an emotionally whiney little bitch to me. Who's to say what you would do to your kid. I think you would be the Bathtub guy myself. Maybe you should check in to that Hospital you mentioned before you become a child murderer? Like they say prevention is usually the best strategy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan Kelso
Oh fuck are how do you not cringe in embarassment at your below average intellect? I would bet you have never even left your own country before. You see there is a whole other world outside the USA incase you didn't know. We don't all live in Caves plotting the downfall of your Government. You see the UK isn't a fascist dictatorship (not yet anyway). We have democracy and guess what I have the Freedom to go about anywhere I please! How about that? Freedom and democracy isn't exclusive to the United states you know. Other countrys have it too! I know I know you think I'm lying about that but what can I say it's the truth! Maybe you can go to Wikipedia and confirm yourself! Also I believe the freedom to murder your own children like you advocate is not a form of freedom I would ever endorse. Maybe you would prefer North Korea lol!! That's another country by the way not a Coorporation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan Kelso
I love how you actually think I'm much younger then I really am! I take that as a compliment thank you! As I figured you're not the sharpest tool in the box. It's great that you hung yourself better then I ever could Dr Death. Now please find your way back to that Mental asylym you escaped from so your future kids won't be drowned by you in the bathtub as you believe it is your right to murder them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan Kelso
Well said Jay!! This lunatic isn't too bright is he?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Chow
Why do you have to keep calling him a bitch because you have different opinions/points of view? I remember you attacking me as well for something we didn't agree on. People can have discussions without ever agreeing, so why make it more than that with insults? Next will come you claiming he's some other guy with a different screen name. I think you said I was Frank James because the name calling wasn't cutting it. Calm down...
He's only giving back what he is getting, which isn't the best way to do it, but you can't have a go at James when it's both of them.
If anyone wants to know what this guy is about check out his first ever 2 posts with his latest account.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank R.
http://www.10thplanetjj.com/threads/...-base-near-you...
Now why would you join a Jiu-jitsu site just to make those your first two posts huh?
Nuff said
Eh... My latest account is my only account. I got this account the day the new site came up. My first post was way after so you really don't make any sense.
You've missed the point. Free will is paramount to liberty. Everyone should be free to make their own choices and deal with the consequences when they make bad ones. If we could install microchips inside a person's brain to inhibit them from murder, I would be against it. The role of government should be to protect the freedoms of individuals by ensuring that others aren't able to infringe upon them. If you kill or attack someone, you are infringing upon their right to life. If you steal from someone, you are infringing upon their right to property. If you rape someone, you are infringing upon their free will. Government only has the right to enter your life when you take away another's freedoms. (Keep in mind that this is how AMERICA is supposed to work according to our Constitution.)Quote:
Going around shooting people falls under "freedom" too, should that be legal? That's why we have Call of Duty and Condoms man, you can't go around thinking you should have 100% freedom, or crazy fucks like you would be RAMPANT.
That said, it is MY belief that children have NO GIVEN rights or freedoms. Their parents are responsible for what freedoms they have. They are naturally dependent upon their parents for EVERYTHING. If that is true, it means that they are property of their parents. Once they come to understand and respect freedom, they are naturally awarded the right to protect it.
I know that it sound callous and heartless to you, but most logic is. Once government has the ability to control how parents raise their OWN children in even one facet, it opens the door for any random official's ideologies to corrupt your family and private home. That's when you have the government placing security cameras inside of your house to make sure you're raising your children properly like in jolly 'ol England.
I didn't say below 2 years. It could be 8 years old for that matter. Besides, I said nothing about it being right. I just don't think that it is my place to dictate morality to SOMEONE ELSE. I know... It's surprising to encounter a person that doesn't believe he knows what's best for others.Quote:
Thinking that killing your kid is okay if it's below 2 years is the most ridiculous viewpoint I've ever heard
Please try to understand. You can never be morally right. You can only be morally right by your own beliefs. Every human being on this planet has their own ethical standards. Simply because you were raised to believe something different doesn't give you the right to attack a person. That is one of the reasons we have war.
I completely agree.Quote:
How about becoming more aware of the fact that if you have unprotected sex, you should get that shit checked as soon as possible and abort as early as possible IF you are not ready.
The life of a child in the womb is worth less than the life of a five-year old?Quote:
When it becomes an actual human being in and out of the womb, it then gets the right to live, as it should do. If it needs care or to be put up for adoption, why not?
You're right. I'm just a "crazy fuck". I'm trolling because someone picked one sentence out of one of my replies, completely taking the thread off-topic, and attacked me for it. Then I defended myself with civility.Quote:
If you actually believed what you are saying, I'd argue fully, but you are obviously trolololling, you divvy.
I'm sorry. I'm a maladjusted psycho. I give myself up. Sign me up for Ludovico therapy.
"A man wants to believe so he does. A smart man wants to believe, but he can't."
trolls trolling trolls while getting trolled
Where's Taylor at?Quote:
Originally Posted by The kza
lol he got banned for threatning to post gay porn on the site lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Cody Kietzman
Sorry I couldn't resist some more trolling for lols!
Yes ladies and gentleman this psycho actually wrote above that he thinks it's a parents right to kill their 8 year old children if they choose to as it's their right as property owners!! You are truly disturbed and I think your inner demons are so fucked up they have demons of their own!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan Kelso
I mean where do we draw the line at having the right to kill our own children? 10, 12, 16, 21 or 25??? My brother dropped out of University this year because he forgot he was there to get a Sport science degree and not to get fucked off his head 24/7. He is back at home completely dependent on our parents to look after him as the lazy fucker can't be bothered to get a job and move out. Maybe I should tell my folks that we should 'put him down' as he is their property afterall and he is completely dependent on them for everything!! It is their right as property owners and it would mean a tidier, less smelly house with no more strange girls appearing at the breakfast table on saturday mornings! In fact I will make this suggestion next time we're all together and see how it goes down!!!
Well done!!! admission is the first stage toward recovery!! Now just check yourself back in to that Nuthouse you escaped from and make sure they don't ever let you out again!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan Kelso
Forget about it man, wasting your time :)
You're right Jay, time to let this thread die I think.
Holy Balls guys i was hoping this one would fall into the depths of the Nibiru Forum vault....please just let it die again!
Get on i.m. !!!!!