How do we Handle Professional Jelousy?

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10-07-2010, 02:25 PM
Clinton lawrence

so in short no 10th planet in south africa no white belt course no nothing the big boss has spoken lets all move on i'm sure we all got some training and drills that can be done
10-07-2010, 02:31 PM
Dennis Martinez

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Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo

Hanno may be the nicest guy in the world but he lied to me and told me he got his bjj black belt in 1997 in New York. He even sent me the certificate but it was for a JJJ black belt. So I asked him again, are you a bjj black belt or jjj black belt? and he insisted that he was a bjj black belt. Then I told him in an email that I would put a hold on his affiliation until I got solid proof of his bjj black belt, but I never did so I decided to not return any of his emails until he sent solid proof. One email after another came, a bunch of emails asking me what I was gonna do about his affiliation and he sent me a bunch of different testimonials from people backing up his character but no proof. So I just ignored every single email hoping he would get the hint that I can't have anyone repping 10th Planet if they are lying about their rank. But he kept sending emails and I kept ignoring them hoping to avoid what's going on now, a public checking.

If he would have just told me the truth about his bjj rank everything would have been fine. Or if he would've just understood that when someone doesn't return any of your emails it means that you should just leave it alone.

If you Respect this System and believe in it then When MASTER EDDIE says something thats the end of it. So when he says this guys not part of this system yet hes misrepresenting himself and claiming to be well thats sad, there are lots of us working our way to the point where we can fly the 10th planet flag and he should have been man enough to do the same. Enough said about all this and everyone trying to defend Hanno well your poorly misinformed and it has been cleared up so leave it be because Master Eddie has spoken....
10-07-2010, 02:40 PM
Chris Herzog

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Originally Posted by Marius

To be honest, I couldn't care if he had a pink belt in ballet !! Hanno is still a great guy and a great teacher. My "ground game" has improved 200% since I started training with him. And yes, I will defend him till the end - maybe because I know him and the person he is. Maybe he was also conned into believing the belt he earned was legit, it was apparently in the USA after all. Maybe he was as embarresed as you were when he found this out and was to shamed to let it be known - this doesn't take away from the fact that he still is a great teacher and was probably the greatest ambassador to 10th Planet in South Africa I've ever met.

So you don't care that he lied to the man he wanted to consider his teacher and mentor, but you think he'll "keep it real" for you?

So its either for the past 13 yrs he was unaware that his BJJ Rank was a fraud, or that he tried to lie and convince everyone around him he was something he was clearly not? I'm not sure what is worse lying to everyone or for the past 13 years or not having the sense to realize you were duped. Really no one called out Hanno "BJJ Instructor" in all this time for promoting other fake belts? The BJJ community is still relatively close, how close do you think it was back in 1997.
Ironically he's claiming to have gotten it while he was in Rochester, Ny ;) Where I've lived all but 4 years of my life. I've been a big part of the Martial Arts Community here for 22 of my 26 years in the Martial Arts. There were no BJJ schools in Rochester until 98-99. And that is when Kyle Saunders move here as a purple belt and opened his own school. My program was the only grappling(Judo, Sambo and Shingitai Jujitsu, MMA and submission grappling)program in the area that wasn't traditional Japanese JuJitsu or Sport Judo. If there were a BJJ Black Belt in the area then I would have been learning from him.
10-07-2010, 02:49 PM
Marius

All good. Just one request - Master Eddie - please give Hanno the opportunity then to start with a white belt and work through the ranks - he did provide proof of his JJJ black belt which should show that he has put the time in to work for a grading. I can assure you that he would quickly proof to you and everyone that he is truly devoted to your teachings and when he does then make it to his 10th planet Brown belt - cause he will given the chance - you will have a true asset in him. Everybody deserves a chance - nobodies perfect.
10-07-2010, 02:51 PM
Jon Helton

I don't make that decision but...

He lied. Multiple times. The End.
10-07-2010, 02:52 PM
Chris Herzog

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Originally Posted by Marius

All good. Just one request - Master Eddie - please give Hanno the opportunity then to start with a white belt and work through the ranks - he did provide proof of his JJJ black belt which should show that he has put the time in to work for a grading. I can assure you that he would quickly proof to you and everyone that he is truly devoted to your teachings and when he does then make it to his 10th planet Brown belt - cause he will given the chance - you will have a true asset in him. Everybody deserves a chance - nobodies perfect.

::Facepalm::
10-07-2010, 02:57 PM
AJ Camacho

I met this girl once who told me that I was the father of her child. I never remembered her but with so many drunken nights, who's to say what happened where? So I gave her the benefit of the doubt and we had a paternity test. It turns out that she lied and we never had sex. Upon discovering this she turned to me and said, "Well, sorry about that. So do you want to start over and go out on a date?"

(not a true story, but actually an analogy veiled inside of a false anecdote)
10-07-2010, 02:59 PM
Marius

Anyways - going to bed now - 5 to midnight here already..Was an intersting topic. I'll still continue to learn as many 10th planet teqniques as possible - whether Hanno or Youtube teaches me - and I will continue to get flack for using the teqnique during comps as you must continue with the good work on your side. Good night.
10-07-2010, 03:04 PM
Jonathan Wylie

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Originally Posted by Marius

Anyways - going to bed now - 5 to midnight here already..Was an intersting topic. I'll still continue to learn as many 10th planet teqniques as possible - whether Hanno or Youtube teaches me - and I will continue to get flack for using the teqnique during comps as you must continue with the good work on your side. Good night.

you should probably disasociate your self with this guy and work for your own affiliation.
10-07-2010, 03:32 PM
Aab

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Originally Posted by AJ Camacho

I met this girl once who told me that I was the father of her child. I never remembered her but with so many drunken nights, who's to say what happened where? So I gave her the benefit of the doubt and we had a paternity test. It turns out that she lied and we never had sex. Upon discovering this she turned to me and said, "Well, sorry about that. So do you want to start over and go out on a date?"

(not a true story, but actually an analogy veiled inside of a false anecdote)

Damn that would have been an awesome true story...... I could have read that shit for 4 or 5 pages more.

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