Daley vs. Diaz -- Call it!!

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Originally Posted by James Davis

well it will be a fight of the year regardless.....daley made weight so it is absolute game on!

And as I said earlier in the thread...Diaz got more respect from me from being the only guy talking about guys like kosheck's incessant leg humping. Laying on guys not trying to improve his position or submit...just stalling and holding position. It's absolutely unthinkable...change the rules or force refs to stand them up. It's not GOOD WRESTLING...it's sucks...this isn't point sparring it's MMA!

I don't really have a problem with nick...I have a problem with people (not here) thinking that dude has no flaws in his game...he does...and some big ones. But the really big problem is his lack of competition. Daley would be in the UFC right now if he didn't have a tampex moment...so this is a legit guy. If Diaz beats him the conversation is over. Sure we can say he needs to fight a legit wrestler...but whatever. I will respect him as being one of the top WW. I already thinks he has major game but his last couple of fights really didn't impress me in that the level of competition was so very low. No disrespect

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Tell me about it! Even GOOD wrestling calls stalling on a inactive opponent, so shold MMA!

I think the problem is the lack of respect that people (like you) have for his opponents. your saying Cyborg is a legit grappler or striker?
People should remember that in MMA anything can happen. And when dudes have great striking and pedigree jiu jitsu like Cyborg, the odds rise with the statement that anything can happen. UFC aint everything. There are other top MMA guys.
I also don't see this as a fight that will be fight of the year canidate either. Daley will either win by left hook or Diaz will win by submission. Even if Diaz dominates him like Shamrock or Smith it will be a one sided fight. Because Daley has only one avenue of winning, he doesn't have much of the chemistry needed for a fight of the night formula.

i didn't mean diaz hasn't fought top quality fighters... i mean, if he lost his position, no fighter outranking him would give him a shot unless forced by their organization... Dana White said Diaz will never be in the UFC again... my prediction is that strikeforce will exist as long as diaz remains champ. once he loses the belt, strikeforce will merge with UFC minus nick diaz.

I mean no disrespect but cyborg is a journeyman...KJ Noons is a lighweight... I mean. Would any of these guys be on a UFC roster? Nick Diaz has had nothing approaching elite competition in years...frank shamrock maybe? Gomi was a great fight but Gomi tagged him too. Sure...all fighters deserve respect but I think that you can not argue Diaz has had a competition problem.

The reason why I see it as a fight of the year candidate is because Daley's muay thai is many levels higher than cyborg. Daley is knows that you can counter Diaz's pace punches...in fact as my boy Lorenz showed you can actually shoulder roll out of the way and tag guys who don't jab. I am not convinced that these pace punches work at a high level in MMA. Diaz could be an innovator...or he could just not have had the competition. Then people go on and on about Daley only having a left hook. They obviously haven't seen him fight....he is a striker...he has a great jab and excellent muay thai and elbows...he busts people up standing up. He's not just one punching them.

It's on!!!!

http://youtu.be/CUPfQT4Dty0

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Originally Posted by prowess

i didn't mean diaz hasn't fought top quality fighters... i mean, if he lost his position, no fighter outranking him would give him a shot unless forced by their organization... Dana White said Diaz will never be in the UFC again... my prediction is that strikeforce will exist as long as diaz remains champ. once he loses the belt, strikeforce will merge with UFC minus nick diaz.

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Actually Dana has recanted his statement and admits he wants Nick back in the UFC...

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Originally Posted by James Davis

well it will be a fight of the year regardless.....daley made weight so it is absolute game on!

And as I said earlier in the thread...Diaz got more respect from me from being the only guy talking about guys like kosheck's incessant leg humping. Laying on guys not trying to improve his position or submit...just stalling and holding position. It's absolutely unthinkable...change the rules or force refs to stand them up. It's not GOOD WRESTLING...it's sucks...this isn't point sparring it's MMA!

I don't really have a problem with nick...I have a problem with people (not here) thinking that dude has no flaws in his game...he does...and some big ones. But the really big problem is his lack of competition. Daley would be in the UFC right now if he didn't have a tampex moment...so this is a legit guy. If Diaz beats him the conversation is over. Sure we can say he needs to fight a legit wrestler...but whatever. I will respect him as being one of the top WW. I already thinks he has major game but his last couple of fights really didn't impress me in that the level of competition was so very low. No disrespect

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To say that Cyborg is low level competition is just plain silly... That fight was gruelling. The guy kicks like a mule, literally! Being a National MT champ and ADCC champ says he is a very high level fighter... just sayin ;)
I agree on the other point, this lay and pray shit is old!

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Originally Posted by Daniel Valdez

I think the problem is the lack of respect that people (like you) have for his opponents. your saying Cyborg is a legit grappler or striker?
People should remember that in MMA anything can happen. And when dudes have great striking and pedigree jiu jitsu like Cyborg, the odds rise with the statement that anything can happen. UFC aint everything. There are other top MMA guys.
I also don't see this as a fight that will be fight of the year canidate either. Daley will either win by left hook or Diaz will win by submission. Even if Diaz dominates him like Shamrock or Smith it will be a one sided fight. Because Daley has only one avenue of winning, he doesn't have much of the chemistry needed for a fight of the night formula.

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Dude Diaz vs Daley is a fight of the night forumla in itself Diaz has one of the worst shots in the business he is a wizard on the ground but far from Jake Shields with the take downs. Daley is alot more complete as a striker utilizing more weapons on his feet should be a great fight period.

Daley knock out in the 2nd round

Diaz always gets rocked early in a fight. but he always seems to recover... I think Daley's key to victory is not letting that opportunity pass. Rock him early and don't let him recover. keep punching until you're gassed! just takes a few seconds of delivering constant unreturned blows for a ref to step in. Diaz will contest the stoppage, popping up immediately after daley stops waling on him...