Hindulotine Instructional Video is up

Super quick choke

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Originally Posted by Apperz

I like this, but would it be fair to say that it is a game more applicable to those with long limbs? I know the Dead Orchard Game is much easier if you have long legs (thighs) and Eddie has said he struggles to lock Triangles. I guess the longer your limbs the less pressure you are going to be putting on your own ankle and father you can sit back? (should say I haven't tried out the position, just going by the video and basing my assessment on having seen people try playing Dead Orchard).

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Yep, longer limbs definitely help with this move.

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Originally Posted by mountveggie

I'm having problems finishing the Hindulotine - mainly because I don't understand the mechanics of the finish
(I tried lifting my elbows up as high as possible, but am not getting anything).

Is it supposed to end up as a gag reflect choke, or a blood choke (i.e. squeezing the sides of the neck)?

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Imagine there is a metal bar on the back of your neck holding your head down. Now a rope is thrown around your neck and pulled up. That's basically the mechanics of the choke. It should be a tight blood choke and a gag reflex because your arms should cover everything except the back of the neck where your leg is holding him down.

Awesome description, thanks for the reply Ben! Just one more quick question - is it a must to use a palm-to-palm grip? Or will a regular macelotine grip work? (I'm finding palm-to-palm a little awkward, could be that I just haven't gotten the mechanics down yet).

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Originally Posted by mountveggie

Awesome description, thanks for the reply Ben! Just one more quick question - is it a must to use a palm-to-palm grip? Or will a regular macelotine grip work? (I'm finding palm-to-palm a little awkward, could be that I just haven't gotten the mechanics down yet).

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The fat of the hand marcelotine grip would finish fine, the problem is it's very hard to find room above your hand compared to below it.

For those that don't have an instagram, you can see the tech vids I've shared here - http://instagram.com/jesushadamoustache.

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Originally Posted by Ben Eddy

For those that don't have an instagram, you can see the tech vids I've shared here - http://instagram.com/jesushadamoustache.

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Very cool, Ben. Is Gunshow a technique you came up with?

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Originally Posted by Apperz

Very cool, Ben. Is Gunshow a technique you came up with?

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First place I saw it was that rexangle. Not saying Ben didn't come up with it on his own though.

Do you play with that Killa B control at all Ben?

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Originally Posted by Apperz

Very cool, Ben. Is Gunshow a technique you came up with?

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Originally Posted by Apperz

Very cool, Ben. Is Gunshow a technique you came up with?

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Yea, as Brent said, I thought it was, but I've recently found ralf's germanator, rex angle etc. So I think it's been around for a bit.

I like to use it a bit differently though, I'm not looking for a choke with it like the rex angle and unlike the germanator I like to use it without the arm being zombie'd. I generally look to work with moves that don't require a zombie'd arm. It's a lot of work to get an arm zombie'd to the mat. I think of the position as a good control position. Just like hindu control it has advantages over meathook and mission control. Compared to mission control you have a free arm to attack with and compared to meathook his head is locked in place.

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Originally Posted by Brent Smith

First place I saw it was that rexangle. Not saying Ben didn't come up with it on his own though.

Do you play with that Killa B control at all Ben?

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Just to answer the question for people here too, hadn't heard of the name, until we talked on FB, but yes I do.

This vid shows how I like to use it to transition to invisible collar. http://instagram.com/p/pNSIbUQFP7/

It makes it so he can't beat the angle on you with his head when trying to get your right arm in for invisible collar. It also makes it so you never lose any control as you transition.

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Originally Posted by Ben Eddy

The fat of the hand marcelotine grip would finish fine, the problem is it's very hard to find room above your hand compared to below it.

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So true! Tried this yesterday with the marcelotine grip and couldn't even get my fingers together. Will keep practicing with palm-to-palm as recommended.

Thanks again for replying to all these questions, looking forward to more of your vids! ;)

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Originally Posted by Ben Eddy

Yea, as Brent said, I thought it was, but I've recently found ralf's germanator, rex angle etc. So I think it's been around for a bit.

I like to use it a bit differently though, I'm not looking for a choke with it like the rex angle and unlike the germanator I like to use it without the arm being zombie'd. I generally look to work with moves that don't require a zombie'd arm. It's a lot of work to get an arm zombie'd to the mat. I think of the position as a good control position. Just like hindu control it has advantages over meathook and mission control. Compared to mission control you have a free arm to attack with and compared to meathook his head is locked in place.



Just to answer the question for people here too, hadn't heard of the name, until we talked on FB, but yes I do.

This vid shows how I like to use it to transition to invisible collar. http://instagram.com/p/pNSIbUQFP7/

It makes it so he can't beat the angle on you with his head when trying to get your right arm in for invisible collar. It also makes it so you never lose any control as you transition.

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What did you call it until I said "Killa B"? I only called it that because that's the name I had heard. I have no idea if Saunders is still rocking it.