My Beef With Vegans/Vegetarians

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Originally Posted by Brandon Jeffries

The Cherokee Indians have an old story they tell. It goes,
before the dawn of history, everything was perfect. Nature was in balance and the cycle of life was even. Then the human began to multiply. The plants couldnt take care of all the humans anymore, so the humans had to resort to killing the animals for food. This angered the animals, so they got together and held a council. They agreed that for every animal the was killed there would be a new disease released to the humans.

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Ok, Tubbs. How does this relate to the article.

Your implication was that the Cherokee story/myth/legend whatever was the stuff of 'witch doctor' and we should listen to the Harvard study.

Cherokee story says animals used as food = disease. Harvard study said animal as food (milk) = disease.

Really the Cherokee story is here nor there, you are the one that related it to witch doctor status and tossed out a study to back up your statement, the study was the opposite, but thank you for playing. We have some lovely parting gifts for you on your way out.

You obviously still haven't read the article...and you are attributing a position to me that I am not taking. You been drinkin flouridated water?

ok

Buddhism has a lot to say about the karmic implications of eating animals. I eat critters anyway but I honestly feel so much better when I don't; physically and spiritually. My Crohn's behaves better, I have more energy, and I don't stay sore after training for nearly as long. Even just a few extra non-meat meals a week makes a difference. I don't think I could ever give up meat entirely and I am a sucker for ice cream (once in a great while), but it really does make a notable difference in my life when I at least minimize meat.

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Originally Posted by Jay Chow

So how else shall we get our calcium intake?

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Plants have a higher concentration of calcium than most people think. A plant based diet provides plenty of calcium to us.

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Originally Posted by derekWwyatt

I have always been an opponent of milk since I was a teenager. I've argued from the position of cow's milk is meant for cows, even cows eventually stop nursing when their body is done needing milk. Same with humans, there is a point in time where a child no longer needs to breast feed. Humans supplement their children's diet with cow's milk for a period of time and then they should stop. Our bodies aren't designed to digest cows milk. That's why cheese constipates and so many people are naturally lactose intolerant... it's their bodies way of saying NO MORE MILK!



In all of that uneducated arguing that I did in the past, I just based it off of logic as a teen.

Now that I have read your argument Brandon, I wasn't that far off. I just lacked the scientific data. Thanks for clarifying and providing proof!

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No Problem buddy

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Originally Posted by Daniel Patrick

Ok, Tubbs. How does this relate to the article.

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It's just food for thought. Even an ancient native american tribe believes that eating meat is a bad thing. You will also find other similar myths/legends from other cultures. Ancient and indigenous people eat meat, but even there beliefs say that it is bad. Like I said, just food for thought.

McDonalds has it sorted. They've got something for everyone!!!

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Originally Posted by David Stevens

McDonalds has it sorted. They've got something for everyone!!!

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How about the kids in Somalia? ;)