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Man... I'll never make it out the ghetto :(Quote:
Originally Posted by John Mejia
That is awesome! hahahQuote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
Look, if Jiu jitsu practitioners don't wear ō-yoroi it's not Jiu jitsu. Everyone knows this. :rolleyes:
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Joachim Hoff's post highlights an important aspect of this discussion.
The historical record on gi and belt wearing actually supports belts for no-gi.
In fact, it looks like Jigoro Kano, founder of Judo and thus progenitor of Bjj through Mitsuyo Maeda, was giving out black belts for 11 years before the modern gi was even introduced. He just had them training in whatever was convenient which included some outfits that will be very familiar to no-gi grapplers.
Articles on Judo history talk about Kano giving out black belts around 1886 and students wearing loin clothes and shorts cut off above the knee with sleeves cut off above the elbow.
The actual gi, as we know it today, was not introduced until 1907.
"It was not until three years later in 1886, that Kano saw the need to distinguish between beginning and advanced students and began the custom of his Yudansha wearing black belts, to signify the difference. "
"The “Keikogi” or “uniform for practice”, known as the “Judogi” in Judo, was not introduced until much later. At this time, all practises were carried out in formal kimono’s, loin cloths or more commonly shorts cut off above the knee and sleeves above the elbow. The formal “Keikogi” full uniform with trousers and the smaller width Kuro Obi, (Kuro – black, Obi – belt), as we know them both today, were first introduced in 1907."
http://www.shiseiryu.com/originsofju...dingsystem.htm
This article at www.judoinfo.com basically confirms much of the information above and goes on to say the following about colored belts:
"Other colored belts for students who had not yet achieved black belt originated later, when Judo began being practiced outside of Japan. Mikonosuke Kawaishi is generally regarded as the first to introduce various colored belts in Europe in 1935 when he started to teach Judo in Paris. He felt that western students would show greater progress if they had a visible system of many colored belts recognizing achievement and providing regular incentives. This system included white, yellow, orange, green, blue, and purple belts before the more traditional brown and black belts."
http://judoinfo.com/alphabetical-lis...neil-ohlenkamp
Brian, would you care to answer some of the points brough up by others in this thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by Valhalla Academy
It seems like the whole reason he's mad is because of the fact that 10th Planet guys use belts as their way to rank people..It would be ok if it was something else but not belts because thats part of the gi! hmmm kind of a weird thing to stress about if that in fact is the case.
He should tell the IBJJF to stop making us use the belt system and make all their nogi tournies novice, beginner, intermediate, and advanced or we should all begin signing up as white belts.
In all seriousness, he probably has a purple belt who got beat by a nogi only not ranked competitor who said I guess Im a purple belt now.
i even like to rank my girlfriends
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-t5ElYyZ6Hl...gapore-zoo.JPGQuote:
Originally Posted by nathan cybul
Purple Belt?