douche moves

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Originally Posted by bobby rivers

There is no such douschey when death is involved. Suck it that fuck up.

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So flying throat stomps and inverted ball twists are all a go in practice rolls? You guys sure don't fuck around in Mobile. :)

If I go up in the air, and you don't build a frame for me before I reach your throat, then yeah, that's on you. I will apologize, but still attempt it.

'Dousche' moves are only douschy when you could clearly control or pass with something else. Good players simply address it immediately and move on.

And I keep steady pressure on the balls. Fights are won and lost here.

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Originally Posted by bobby rivers

If I go up in the air, and you don't build a frame for me before I reach your throat, then yeah, that's on you. I will apologize, but still attempt it.

'Dousche' moves are only douschy when you could clearly control or pass with something else. Good players simply address it immediately and move on.

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fair call, so you think that its also who you roll with that makes a move douchey?

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Originally Posted by bobby rivers

And I keep steady pressure on the balls. Fights are won and lost here.

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i think youre mistaking jiu jitsu with sex jitsu and fighting with fornicating

Yes. I think it def matters who you are rolling with. And I've never fornicated. I crush ballz. Literally.

I'll suck your fingers and/or toes, and I'll also nibble on your ears a little. But none of those things could under any reasonable terms be considered 'douchey;' I'd say 'generous' is more apt.

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Originally Posted by bobby rivers

Yes. I think it def matters who you are rolling with.

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I meant to add that I agree with this wholeheartedly. For example, if I'm rolling with Barca or McCaghren, I might go so far as to try to sneak in a mouth to mouth kiss. But those guys are both brown belts like me; I would never try something that douchey to an athlete who wasn't properly trained to handle the technique.

I'd say douche moves are poking eyes, biting, pulling ears, etc. The other moves like knee to face, fist to face, are douchey at first, only because you don't know why your opponent is doing that to you. Douche moves should only happen to you once or a few times, but you should then learn to avoid getting caught in that situation.

When I rolled with X, he gripped the crud out of my neck as if I took his ticket to ADCC China. I thought maybe this was a douche move because no one ever closed a grip on my neck, but then I thought to myself, "well there's a first. I'll never get caught in that again!"

In the end, the more douche moves you get caught with, the better your defenses will be in the future. And usually, you'll get caught in a douche move because the regular subs weren't working and time is running out.

Oh one of the first douche moves I got caught in was a slam when I was cinching the triangle. I learned to hook the leg, thereby making my defense stronger, but my attack more deadly.

Hope that helps,
Rick

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Originally Posted by David 'Lo Pan' Callaham

I meant to add that I agree with this wholeheartedly. For example, if I'm rolling with Barca or McCaghren, I might go so far as to try to sneak in a mouth to mouth kiss. But those guys are both brown belts like me; I would never try something that douchey to an athlete who wasn't properly trained to handle the technique.

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You don't have to be sneaky, for the record.

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Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren

You don't have to be sneaky, for the record.

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Is this just for other brown belts, or for anyone you roll with?