The worst excuse for tapping?

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Originally Posted by wancarlos

the nibiru forum:
preventing cardio taps, since a thread was created about it

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bahahahahahahaha +1

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Originally Posted by David Rosado

Was it Royler?

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yes.. yes it was. haha

it's some real delusion to call a painful, static position, a non-move lol

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Originally Posted by RichardC

I stop anytime anyone taps. It's disrespectful and almost predatory not to. I don't get it. The "learn the hard way" shit only works for some.

Most painful tap for me was when a guy leaned back for a bad straight ankle lock, stomped his foot into my cup, and it dislodged one of my balls. Then, when he readjusted, his toe gripped that nut and stretched it halfway down my leg. I think that one's legit.

I've caught a few high-level belts who stop me to coach the technique... "Let me show you how to do this..." They're presumptuous because I wear a white belt.

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You're right, no coach should ever push his students and test their limits. Progress is usually achieved through mediocrity.

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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog

You're right, no coach should ever push his students and test their limits. Progress is usually achieved through mediocrity.

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just a long mediocre crap being taken on the mats

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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog

You're right, no coach should ever push his students and test their limits. Progress is usually achieved through mediocrity.

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LOL, not the same thing. False dichotomy.

Do what you do in your place, no one's telling you not to.

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Originally Posted by RichardC

LOL, not the same thing. False dichotomy.

Do what you do in your place, no one's telling you not to.

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I wasn't looking for your permission.

It IS the same thing. If I'm rolling with a student and he taps due to his cardio, I will continue to roll with them, and coach them through it, encourage them to keep going even if they want to give up. Afterwards they always appreciate the push, not realizing they own limits until exceeded. That's is not predatory.

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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog

I wasn't looking for your permission.

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Nor did I imply that I was giving it to you. Relax.

Dave did you ever feel victimized by me refusing to let you quit?

Now that you edited your post and clarified your position, it is entirely different.

Rolling with Herzog isn't a fun time lol, especially when you roll with him towards the end of the night or you just had some hard rolls with bigger students. His pressure is enough to suck the life out of you haha. I never tapped from being tired, just dealt with it and kept going. That's how I got better, my cardio now has improved quite a bit. Tapping from being in danger and tapping because of cardio are two diff things. Change your diet or whatever you need to do and suck it up.