Unifying all JJ belt systems

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Originally Posted by Justin W.

No one cares about what nogi people enter because nogi is usually divided by novice, intermediate, advanced and they go by years of training, not so much belts but they do care about Gi. It's just disrespectful to enter as a higher belt. I've had to compete against a lower belt before and it's horrible. Nothing to gain, everything to lose. I've also heard lots of situations where the higher belts have denied the lower belts from competing with them.

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If your skill and ego are good, you have nothing to lose. Except the match. If a lower belt is game to roll me, I take on all comers. If I get scalped so be it. Dude was good. What's the alternative? Sit out, or roll. Rolling is funner.

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Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson

its honor system? how do they check your rank?

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The major ones do. Most regional ones could care less.

I would of been sandbagging pretty bad entering the white belt division. Because I won the blue division consistently. Then I got promoted so I could stop with the fuckery. I like challenges. I also never claimed rank. I just told them what division I wanted to compete in and dressed accordingly. Had to borrow the gi too.

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Originally Posted by bobby rivers

If your skill and ego are good, you have nothing to lose. Except the match. If a lower belt is game to roll me, I take on all comers. If I get scalped so be it. Dude was good. What's the alternative? Sit out, or roll. Rolling is funner.

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I've never denied a match but I can understand people who do. There are plenty lower belts that should be higher belts, so it's better to go against someone that's actually repping his true belt, than to lose to someone who should be a higher belt. If the guy is really a lower belt level, then I'd rather let someone else have the free win and I'll earn my way to the gold with a legit match.

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Originally Posted by Justin W.

No one cares about what nogi people enter because nogi is usually divided by novice, intermediate, advanced and they go by years of training, not so much belts but they do care about Gi. It's just disrespectful to enter as a higher belt. I've had to compete against a lower belt before and it's horrible. Nothing to gain, everything to lose. I've also heard lots of situations where the higher belts have denied the lower belts from competing with them.

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That's unfortunate. I didn't realize that's how all the gi tournaments are. Ive never competed in one before. How long have you been training for?

Op be trippin, man.

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Originally Posted by Tom Carbone

That's unfortunate. I didn't realize that's how all the gi tournaments are. Ive never competed in one before. How long have you been training for?

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Just made 3 years. I'm sure you could just throw on a fake belt to compete at a higher level and no one would question it if no one knows you at the tournament. I've asked my instructors if I could do this before and they've denied me every time. I know naga will throw you in the purple belt division if you enter advanced nogi but that's the only tournament I've heard about that does this.

Its not disrespectful. Its a game. I show up and pay them money to compete. I want the best in the building.

If I posed as a belt and charged for classes, now that's fucked up.

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Originally Posted by bobby rivers

Its not disrespectful. Its a game. I show up and pay them money to compete. I want the best in the building.

If I posed as a belt and charged for classes, now that's fucked up.

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Other than egos Im guessing its usually higher belts that teach and dont want their students quitting because their instructor got beat by some low belt ranked person. I think its the fear of losing the cult leader mind control some instructors have on their students. Maybe it cant be helped that a lot people dont know any better other than to think their instructor is invincible, and shouldnt be disrespected by being challenged or beating by some first year grappler

ouch, you went on that guy, but you're right.

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Originally Posted by Stewart Landry

So you think that higher belts roll full tilt all the time ... lol good call ... If the system works like that ... white belts will get raped at a good club because no one will let them play and learn. In class it should be your lab ... its not the same as competition ... As well diff schools keep different levels of skill for a certain belt level ... there are clubs that sell belts ... your suggestion would lead to the deterioration of JJ ...

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Originally Posted by bobby rivers

Its not disrespectful. Its a game. I show up and pay them money to compete. I want the best in the building.

If I posed as a belt and charged for classes, now that's fucked up.

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What a mind fuck though if someone saw you compete as brown/black belt and wanted to sign up at your academy and saw you were actually a purple belt. I feel people judge a lot of credibility off an instructors belt rank and would in certain cases not sign up. Though I completely agree with your logic in the situation and believe you should continue challenging yourself I feel if the area isn't producing guys that are at my level or higher you have to go explore competitions outside my usual area. I am sure there some bad ass purple belts out there that are searching for that same step up in opponent.