This is getting more and more confusing..i don know what to think anymore
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This is getting more and more confusing..i don know what to think anymore
This seems pretty much the norm. Guy gets himself some backlash for being an ass. People gang up and show he is not only an ass but a liar. Guy claims he is misunderstood and that he was just angry, but its too late. Guy realizes he has been caught and instead of humbling himself he tucks dick and ends up leaving the forum all together. Par for the course.
it was an honorary belt as I was one of two instructors at the school at the time of affiliation. I left for other circumstances before it became official at review. I stated from the beginning that I didnt feel qualified to wear it at the time I was told to or after the fact, I'll admit that I wanted to believe it but deep down I didnt and that was more evident when I became a member on here and saw that I should be honest with myself and everyone, thus why I changed it. I have about 7 years seven years experience grappling, first way back in the mid nineties when I took trad jj for just shy of 3 years. and the time that I was at abismma which is a nova uniao affiliate where I was teaching mma (grappling included) for over a year and a half. you make the call, I was there and have fighters who trained with me who were there when all of this transpired long before jake ever moved to goldsboro. I do not have credentials proving it but My fiance and I had dinner with Neale where she verified what I am saying in conversations with Neale, and at that time, I told neale that I wanted to work as hard as ever to be a tpjj student and for him "not" to cut me any corners as I want to be the best that I could be. I expressed this to Kevin Green also and had planned on having him evaluate me for my blue when he came down next month. Ask them, but Im pretty sure they are staying away from this as much as possible so not to damage their credibility. In fact, I have asked them to do so. I would never want to hurt anyone or the reputation of tpjj, as why I'm leaving and choosing to do so. I am deeply sorry for any confusion, and believe me, the headache that all of this seem to have caused everyone. I again, will say that I was wrong in posting what I said with the name calling, it was wrong, and childlish on my part. I am a hot head at times when I feel attacked, a fault all my doing.
Honorary belt? :/ Dude, you need to just come clean. Your fiancé can't vouch for your credentials...unless she's a BJJ black belt?
In my opinion, you seem like you love the system, but you don't get anywhere with lying. You've gotta work your way to the top no matter who you are. Any other rank in Japanese JJ, Judo, Tae Kwon Do, Karate, they don't matter. They are great to have, sure, but you can't transfer them over to 10th Planet. You gotta work as hard as Sean Bollinger, as hard as Denny Prokopos, to earn your rank.
Anything that went before just forget about it. Don't big yourself up. Don't say you're better than anyone. PROVE it. I got my blue belt by going to LA and tapping blue belts, not by another rank saying I should be one.
A fresh start is necessary for you. Your relevant grappling experience starts the day you set foot in a BJJ school, not a traditional JJ school
this is exactly what Neale and Kevin warned me about forums. here I have done everything to make everything crystal fucking clear as to any misrepresentation on my part and tried to do as so many of you have wished me to do or I should say, have done to me which is ban me from the forum and any affiliation with tpjj. I have agreed that because so many of you feel so strongly about it, that I would walk away as not to continue creating havoc for its members. And yet through it all, this one person right here who was so very adament about banning me is the very first to criticize me for voluntarily leaving... WTF? what would you prefer Jeff that I do. I'll discount the emails that I have gotten from others this am on fb and my hotmail, the phone calls from my students who are watching this and cant believe how people who have never met me can hate so much, And the few on here who, in the face of being rejected themselves, have said give me another chance, I'll ignore everyone of them and let you make the decision. Just tell me what it is that you would like to see happen to me, since going away isnt good enough for you. and for the record, you dont know me at all, but are choosing to make assumptions based off statements that I have made in the past that you dont agree with and others who also know even less than you about me as a person. I'm so sorry for you most of all that you can't put aside your confused anger and distain for me to see that this has been very hard for me and probably one of the saddest events in my life, as one of the best days was on my birthday back in April, when for my present, My fiance knowing how much I like tpjj, paid for me to go to delaware for Eddies seminar and meet him. It was has I have stated, a life changing day where I had the pleasure of meeting some of the absolute best people on earth. I knew from that point on that this is what I wanted to do and be completely devoted to it. I failed on some great level evidently for people who have never laid eyes upon me or spoken with me outside of this forum to dislike me sooo much and be so outspoken about it. I have done all I could to correct any errors, to apologize to those I have offended, and its still not enough for you, If you send me your address, I'll cut off a finger and mail it to you so that you can have a true piece of me as a momento of all of this and how you hand your hand in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Vale
I hope that everyone can see by Jeff's posting that sometimes it doesnt matter what you do, its never enough, and I am well aware of the fact and think that is why it is best that I leave.
I have come clean and Jay, you and were part of the reason this got blown out of proportion, just so you know, my fiance ates that I train, because she feels that I spend less time with her, but she was there when all of these things took place and I think that I earned the belt that I now claim as a beginner in tpjj which is white. Ive come right out and admitted to everyone that once I joined this forum and really started to get involved with it, I saw exactly what you said to be the truth and made every correction to clear that up. I'm not going to say Ive never trained before now because that would be a lie, and if you cant see that by Jason corriera statement that I'm as genuine as I can be when I teach and the love I have for this, then I am sorry that I made you think otherwise. I am sorry to you for the name calling, sincerely, it was childish on my part and I should not have done it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay JC Chow
you and I is what I meant to say, that our arguing back and forth blew this up, did not mean to imply you were at fault solely, i missed a key.Quote:
Originally Posted by frank-theman-james
It seems like a few phone calls between black belts can straighten this issue out. The BJJ community is pretty tight and that should sort out many of these disputes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Vale
Is 10thPJJ becoming the new Bullshido?
Lol clearly you don't know what hearsay means. Just because what he said is hearsay doesn't mean it can't be accurate. It means it's unfair to just take it at face value. My personal opinion believing it to be accurate doesn't change the fact that it is hearsay. And I'm well aware of the lawyer's stigma thank you very much.Quote:
Originally Posted by djradoff
This guy is TERRIBLE for 10th Planet.
There is so much I want to say, but my time is precious and this guy is toxic, so I will keep my post short.
If Frank were a teenager, I would write this off as a person who is brash in youth, or a kid who doesn't have a lot of worldly experience. Unfortunately, Frank is a grown man, so I have zero tolerance for it.
I don't know about you, but in my experience, it is unheard of in any academy for a person to speak the way Frank did to the top guys of the association and get away with it. Making demands to the head instructor about belt promotions? That is laughable. In any school that I have been to, or trained in, this dude would immediately be given his money back, his contract would be torn up in front of him, his association with the academy would be permanently terminated, and he would be laughed out the front door. And that is if he was lucky enough not to also get his ass kicked.
The fact that Eddie is even asking us for our opinions shows how lucky we all are to have him as our Mestre.
BTW...this is not the first time that this guy has gotten on this forum and been completely out of line. See this thread for example.
Frank if you are reading this, as a 10th Planet student, I take personal offense for the way you have spoken to Eddie and Scott.
Scott has payed serious dues and in the very least deserves your respect as a martial artist. He is a black belt in BJJ, a feat that most people will never reach, and to get there he has put more on the line than most ever will.
Secondly, not only is Eddie a BJJ LEGEND, but he is the most generous guy in the game and doesn't deserve to have you, or anyone preaching to him, speaking to him with any ill intent, or demanding anything of him. Your logic is horribly flawed and in my opinion you are bad for this, or any tribe.