half gaurd path issues

So i ran into a problem last night with one of our 185 pro fighters last night. After securing the lock down i can not get to the whip up cause hes sitting his hips down so low and using over under on me. his head is resting about low sternum level on me and when i use the jaws of life his arms are still to low on me to secure under hooks to get to whip up. i'm guessing if i was smaller and better at butterflys this would be a good time to scoot my hips out and use them but i'm not very good there so i just held the lock down any help for getting to whip up from when your opponent is low and blocking underhooks would be greatly appreciated.

IMO stomp to butterfly to jj2 or butterfly to full guard. If he is staying so low on you that you cant get underhooks you gotta abandon ship. There maybe something else to regain underhooks but I dont know it:cool:

Flying kung fu. If hes that far back but you can get a tight overhook you should have plenty of room to flying kung fu. Or like Brandon said stomp, get to butterfly then sweep

There's a slight modification that I learned from Derek who's the Head instructor of 10th Planet Omaha. He calls it the Omaha Whip Rather than fighting for those perfect double unders, use your Jaws of Life to Push the head and essentially create enough space to Have your elbows sneak into the armpit area and frame out. From there rather than Whipping up and over to the side to sneak off, Rock him overtop of you with your legs, and sneak in to position because your already deep underneath him as if you had done a regular whip up. Try to not post on the elbow with a seatbelt, try and "s" or grable grip around him to avoid getting D'arced while trying to hit old skool, plan B, or anything else in the Lockdown series. Hopefully Derek see's this and can shed a little more light on the situation. :-)

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Originally Posted by John Mejia

There's a slight modification that I learned from Derek who's the Head instructor of 10th Planet Omaha. He calls it the Omaha Whip Rather than fighting for those perfect double unders, use your Jaws of Life to Push the head and essentially create enough space to Have your elbows sneak into the armpit area and frame out. From there rather than Whipping up and over to the side to sneak off, Rock him overtop of you with your legs, and sneak in to position because your already deep underneath him as if you had done a regular whip up. Try to not post on the elbow with a seatbelt, try and "s" or grable grip around him to avoid getting D'arced while trying to hit old skool, plan B, or anything else in the Lockdown series. Hopefully Derek see's this and can shed a little more light on the situation. :-)

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Nice, the Omaha whip sounds legit. Ill have to try it out

Meat hook from there! All day.

if hes that low on you he probably doesnt have that much pressure on your chest so i would go for the old school sweep by grabbing the far ankle or two on one that ankle so that he just tips right over if not go to stoner control :D yuhhh!

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Originally Posted by sprawlnow

if hes that low on you he probably doesnt have that much pressure on your chest so i would go for the old school sweep by grabbing the far ankle or two on one that ankle so that he just tips right over if not go to stoner control :D yuhhh!

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Wont work if you dont have double under hooks

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Originally Posted by Brent Smith

Nice, the Omaha whip sounds legit. Ill have to try it out

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The Omaha whip is legit as fuck. That's how I whip guys bigger than I, or guys who have a clue what's about to happen. It just makes the lockdown that much more offensive. I suggest you fool around with it.

I gotta learn me the Omaha Whip!