Marcelotine?

I always hear people talking about how great the marcelotine is. I think Jon Jones's guillotine is way better. Why don't people ever talk about that?

I think it's personal preference. Jones guillotine was great, it worked money against a BJJ blackbelt but you have to turn you hand palm to palm and IMHO the ball and socket grip feels more natural to go to maybe that's why.

Better for who?

Its because Jones is better at jiu jitsu

The prayer grip. Good if youre not on your back ie- opponent is pinned against the fence. Unnecessary transition otherwise. Checkmate in fewest possible moves=best.

I definitely prefer the Marcelotine. I have trouble getting my short arms deep enough to make that prayer choke work very well. When I have managed to put it together it works incredibly well, though.

Marcelotine is a low risk, high reward attack. It doesn't expend very much energy, even if it fails, and it doesn't usually leave you terribly out of position.

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Originally Posted by sean applegate

Its because Jones is better at jiu jitsu

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True, I would say Jon Jones has the best Jiu Jitsu in the UFC's LHW division.

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Originally Posted by Kevin Navarro

True, I would say Jon Jones has the best Jiu Jitsu in the UFC's LHW division.

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Lol.

Jon Jones would most likely smash Marcelo in a bjj match.

The marcelotine is higher percentage. The prayer choke is good, but can still rendered useless when they pass. The marcelotine's high elbow makes it harder for the person to pass or shove their head in to get room to breath (slack in the grip, which is already minimalized with the marcelotine). Also, the Marcelotine is more of an air choke (which is more painful, as it's crushing the throat). The prayer is a blood choke. Most people just tap from the pain.