Big Guys "I can't do Rubber Guard I'm too big"

Big Guys "I can't do Rubber Guard I'm too big"

I'm not sure how many times I've heard this but being a smaller guy (155 lbs walking around) theres no way for me to dispute the statement. I have a hard time believing this to be true. So the reason I'm starting this thread is, are there any videos of big guys doing rubber guard successfully on other big guys? Or since theres a wide variety of body sizes on this forum, some personal experience on whether this statement is even close to true. And by "big guys" I'm meaning more the ones with a gut not "big guys" like Vinny.
Ive even seen some guys refuse to even try because they "know" they can't do it.

And Im sure there are some aspects that arent possible but Ive asked about teaching big guys rubber guard in the past and I was told its all about angles. But I want to be able to say "This guy is successful with rubber guard and hes big"

All I know is I'm BIG I can't do the rubber guard but I stretch every day it hopes that one day I'll be able to crank it on someone. It's hard just to find guys that want to roll. But as soon as I hit the RG ill post it lol

I thought there was a british amatuer heavyweight champ with some solid rubber guard. Sorry I can't remember your name, pal. There is also this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjEV6CDlLWE

I usually weigh around 235, and the only thing that would potentially stop me from getting rubber guard flexible is my gut.
It's all about consistancy. Stretch 3-4 times a day, after every workout, when you watch tv, etc etc. Be thorough, and take your time. Try to enjoy it. 10 minute warm up 20 minute stretch. Listen to some radio, music, watch a show (I like to watch MTS when I stretch).
Don't say you can't if you havent even given it a chance.

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Originally Posted by Nat Cummings

I usually weigh around 235, and the only thing that would potentially stop me from getting rubber guard flexible is my gut.
It's all about consistancy. Stretch 3-4 times a day, after every workout, when you watch tv, etc etc. Be thorough, and take your time. Try to enjoy it. 10 minute warm up 20 minute stretch. Listen to some radio, music, watch a show (I like to watch MTS when I stretch).
Don't say you can't if you havent even given it a chance.

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Yeah the gut is what I hear as far as an excuse at to why its impossible. Ive seen guys that look like Butterbean get into double lotus and are able to headkick someone thats 6'5 So I assume its possible with flexibility. I could see Meathooks and Mission Control being somewhat of an issue without a good angle but theres no reason flying kung fus and flying chill dog shouldnt be possible or even easy to do for big guys

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Originally Posted by Dave Cran18

All I know is I'm BIG I can't do the rubber guard but I stretch every day it hopes that one day I'll be able to crank it on someone. It's hard just to find guys that want to roll. But as soon as I hit the RG ill post it lol

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And once you do youll be tearing apart guys your size with rubber guard cause they wont have the reps defending!

Sometimes the phrase "rubber guard" is intimidating unto itself. It implies insane flexibility that may deter larger less flexible people from giving it a try. When I've had bigger dudes ask me to show them things I just show them a route off of the overhook. It's far less intimidating and if they create the right angle, their ankle is right there for the posture control anyways and low and behold, they're doing rubber guard without even realizing it.

I got a guy that come in the gym,and when I first met him he was 260 270 and could do rubber guard all day.

at my largest i was 235-240 and could hit a handstand double lotus. I def had a big advantage over those who didn't use it.
guys my size get tired quick. Crackhead for 30 secs to a min usually does the trick to be honest. ...which is pathetic haha

Well I'm pretty big, my calves, thighs and hamstrings are pretty huge but i can still do the rubber guard even without an angle. I started stretching 1 month before i started jiu-jitsu and i was good to go. I still can't do the splits though

I knew it was possible. Thats enough for me to say "yes you can dummy"

I have Eddie's book, and I've been practicing the stretches for some months now.

If anything has seen the video where he talks about "developing the squeeze" and he hugs around his leg to show it.


Well....I can do full lotus now, but I have a lot of lower body strength.
My legs are tree trunks which could compete with any heavyweight kick boxers, so I can hardly if at all get my arms around one of my legs like that, in that rear naked position.

I have pretty strong grip though, but as a 6'3 200+ pound guy, I don't see why anyone who doesn't set their mind to it couldn't do rubber guard at a REASONABLE sized gut.


Here's a little secret though, come in close...closer......people who let themselves get too big to physically be able to do rubber guard, jj, or any sort of martial art effectively no matter how much time they put into it, probably don't have the will power to do the kind of reps it takes to get it down in the first place.

Though that's just my theory as a recovering fat guy.

You want a fucking cookie.

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Originally Posted by Nat Cummings

I usually weigh around 235, and the only thing that would potentially stop me from getting rubber guard flexible is my gut. It's all about consistancy. Stretch 3-4 times a day, after every workout, when you watch tv, etc etc. Be thorough, and take your time. Try to enjoy it. 10 minute warm up 20 minute stretch. Listen to some radio, music, watch a show (I like to watch MTS when I stretch).
Don't say you can't if you havent even given it a chance.

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Yep. But even still, I can do it when I do it properly.

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Originally Posted by Ken Madden

at my largest i was 235-240 and could hit a handstand double lotus. I def had a big advantage over those who didn't use it.
guys my size get tired quick. Crackhead for 30 secs to a min usually does the trick to be honest. ...which is pathetic haha

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Feels bad man. :( I feel like such a piece of shit lately. I've been missing so much jiu jitsu lately I'm borderline depressed.

That Amir dude at HG looks pretty good sized and flexible. Whats his story?

I am 6'3 205lbs and I can lock up guys my height and weighing 285- it's hard to get to Chill Dog sometimes with them, but I can get mission control pretty regularly. I've yet to land Kung Fu due to their typically large traps, neck and head- I use this as my breather position with them- I know I am going to get passed, but to learn we have to put ourselves in dangerous positions. Love the RG.

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Originally Posted by Greg W

That Amir dude at HG looks pretty good sized and flexible. Whats his story?

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He's a BAMF. I think I recall watching him pull off a mounted gogo plata WHILE the guy had him in half guard. THAT's some damn flexibility. Geez.

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Originally Posted by David Rosado

He's a BAMF. I think I recall watching him pull off a mounted gogo plata WHILE the guy had him in half guard. THAT's some damn flexibility. Geez.

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I saw that also, sick,sick.

At first when I started training I couldn't do it. At 6'3" 225 I just kept stretching and working the path on smaller guys until it started to improve. It still needs work but I can get to crackhead and clear the head, but I don't have the flexibility yet in my left leg to double bag. I guess the biggest thing isn't to abandon it because you have difficulties doing it at first. You've got to just stick to it And keep drilling it, but don't push the stretches to far I've seen guys tweak their knees and stuff. But yes big guys can do rubber guard.

whoa whoa whoa i just mean my gut hinders me from being comfortable when im stretching. didnt mean that i couldn't do it.

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Originally Posted by Nat Cummings

whoa whoa whoa i just mean my gut hinders me from being comfortable when im stretching. didnt mean that i couldn't do it.

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I know that feeling so I knew what you meant. It's annoying.

I'm 6'5" 250-265 and double bag, i love crackhead to duda it's where your mind is at not your weight or gut. if you want it you'll find an angle, or blame your gut and drink another 12 for me cuz. lol