Do's and Don't when wrestling up a few too many weight classes

After reading an earlier post on here and thinking of a roll I had the other night where one of my students had a little over 60kg on me (sorry I'm Australian about 130lbs).

I found my Butterfly was pretty easily crushed by a guy this size, and on the bottom was not real fun at all.

Big guys do tend to leave bigger holes though so transitions to the back were on, and once in top position I could move rather freely.

Isolation of arms for a finish was difficult but gogo's were on.

It's got me asking the question what are every-ones go to moves when there is huge weight difference, and what do you avoid like the plague?

Triangles for bigger guys and if the positioning is right heel hooks, ankle locks I stay away from arms of larger guys since I tend to get overpowered. I tend to catch them more than attack though. That's just me.

Maintain mount to tire and then arm triangle.

Well I'm the same weight as you and just in general I try to stay away from rolling with people 200 lbs plus but if I have too I've found arm drag to the back works wonders because no matter how big the choke is always stronger. Now If I do get stuck in gaurd I like to go for arm bars even though stregth isn't on my side. I find the flower sweep to be quite effective when they defend.. I'm so small and there so concered with there arm that they never see it comin. And if they do I just work the arm in hopes of a scramble to regain a more dominant position.

As a bigger guy, I know that when I roll with smaller guys I have to be aware of getting my back taken, swim-moved, or anything else that could result in an armbar. More recently our guys have been working De la Riva and Spiral guard to X- guard so I have to watch out for that, And I've been caught in some deep half as well.

I try not to get stuck underneath super big guys. As stated above Sucker drags to the back are key. I play top game with big dudes as much as possible cause I don't want to carry their weight.

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Originally Posted by John Mejia

As a bigger guy, I know that when I roll with smaller guys I have to be aware of getting my back taken, swim-moved, or anything else that could result in an armbar. More recently our guys have been working De la Riva and Spiral guard to X- guard so I have to watch out for that, And I've been caught in some deep half as well.

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It's scary when big dudes like Juan Carlos start playing with the De la Heeeeev. Something about a 6'3" 230 lbs animal starts spinning around underneath you like a featherweight, it's awesome.

Great topic, i got fucking minced today by some gigantic fucking rugby player (cool guy though) that outweighed me by 70lbs LOL :-)

I'm 5'11 and about 270 things i have to watch for deff getting my back taken and darces.

Man this is like every day for me at the gym. I got 3 plans... Plan A) Roll light, and don't worry too much about fighting positions, letting them get tired as hell. Then it's easier to work subs or position. Plan B) Bait the stack, using hubber guard or faking armbars then move for a quick sweep. I find the extra weight lets my sweeps feel more powerful. Plan C) Get my ass smashed
Important part to remember is just to ask them, after rolling with a big guy, ask him why your sweep didnt work or how he muscled out of your sub. I guarantee roll with guys 40+ pounds more than you and your own weight division feels easy

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Originally Posted by Kyle Spalla

Triangles for bigger guys and if the positioning is right heel hooks, ankle locks I stay away from arms of larger guys since I tend to get overpowered. I tend to catch them more than attack though. That's just me.

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I was actually teaching a transition to triangle from dog fight earlier in the night and this guys partner said he couldn't triangle him, I jumped in myself and the guy was too big to lock off a triangle, and his lack of neck made it impossible, however just by securing the position you could switch to Bolt Lock which was effective drilling anyway.

My main training partner is 6'4 and hes about the only person i have ever rolled with that can triangle me...but vice versa being a big guy with short legs i cant triangle at all :( i stick with darce chokes and some arm locks and been hitting twister like a mad man lately :D . I prefer lock down and working from there and side control both twister and modified scarf hold. If you bait a big guy to full mount its easy to bump and roll us :)

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Originally Posted by DavidHamp

My main training partner is 6'4 and hes about the only person i have ever rolled with that can triangle me...but vice versa being a big guy with short legs i cant triangle at all :( i stick with darce chokes and some arm locks and been hitting twister like a mad man lately :D . I prefer lock down and working from there and side control both twister and modified scarf hold. If you bait a big guy to full mount its easy to bump and roll us :)

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Teepee?

i actually just told the guys about this and they have been drilling it but i cannot sit up far enough with someone in between my legs to grab around my legs. If i can get someone into a high guard or get an arm islotaed i bait with a inverted armbar kinda thing and turn right into an omaplata works very well for me.