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I start a 3 year stretch on the 17th of this month for defending myself on my own property against a drunk neighbour that was trying to tear my face apart fish hook style. 43 years of age and I've never had any previous trouble with the law before this nutter showed up in my life. The British justice system sucks. What in terms of Jiu-jitsu skills should I be working on during my incarceration? Sensible and humorous suggestions please.
well you sure as hell don't wont to be giving your back up......i'd start there :p
Work on your anal squeeze its a must!
Yeah I think rear naked defence is a must.
On a serious note dont go to the ground unless you have to. Remember every fight while on your Vacation makes your vacation longer. 3 yr bid will be long enough to get used to being the other side. There is a book called convict conditioning which is really well put together. Bodyweight training while on vacation. It is great program either way. Remember you can either do your time or let the time do you. Stay positive.
Exactly. here in the states dudes get 2 or 3 then get into fights and end up doing life for murder. in the U.S. cats wont let you do your time in peace so someone will test you until you make an example out of somebody, my uncle killed a dude in jail with a trechia wind choke & he didn't even know jiujitsu he just jammed his thumbs into the dudes throat. & he didn't get caught & the dude was asking for it. U.S prisons are very violent i don't know about the U.K though. but you should focus on standing guillotines and various blood & wind chokes. & remember nothings free in jail, & dudes run all kinds of game, if someone offers you something for free don't accept it. & drop the first person that steps to you with some bulshit with no hesitation, respect is everything in the clinkQuote:
Originally Posted by Josh Passini
Google Ghetto Workout. There's two dudes named Hannibal and Barilla and man are they jacked. Not that fake muscle show jacked, they are as functional as it gets. Remember stay positive and don't "DROP THE FUCKING SOAP" :-)
I think this is called the "Buttock compressor!!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack LaBarge
Thanks for the posts guys. Never been inside before, but apparently UK jails are paradise compared to many US prisons. Still going to keep my wits about me though - I just want to get back to my girlfriend and family as quick as possible. I should be out after about 14 months or so.
The power double. No idea if you have any wrestling and with time being limited its hardly likely you will master it, but a well timed double leg is enough to put most untrained fools on their back every time, with you on top.
I agree with the book convict conditioning, and another tip is not to let people see you train. Train when it's lights out. If people know your a fighter they tend to fuck with you more. how is your stand up game and do you know of pressure points and people's vital points?Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh Passini
I'd agree with doin lots of body weight exercises in the privacy of your cell. I wouldn't hit the weight area & let people see you working out or training. You can really work on flexibility too while your in there by stretching alot. Other than that I'd do tons of reading, if you have to serve the entire 3yrs straight thats a long time to sit in a cell. Reading is a good way to escape walls with your mind & pass time. Also good for keeping you in your own world & out of the general mix.
Yeah I intend to hit the double lotus without hands. Hell with all the spare time I should be like a rubber man before I come out. I love reading, so that should kill a few hours.
I wonder if letting people see you train is a problem in English jails?
Gabriel, my stand up is average at best. More of a ground and pound sort of guy, hence the prison sentence due to over use of the elbows.
U were droppin those 12 to 6 bows from the top huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Hannan
I watch alot of those "Locked Up" episodes usually late at night & from what I have seen the English prisons are alot more laxed for the most part. For your crime I doubt you go to a maximum security prison. The few I have seen on that show from over there are kinda like a college dorm with guards. Seemed like the guys had alot more freedoms over there than here but they also werent treating each other like animals like they do in our prisons. For the most part the inmates they interviewed there said they just wanted to do time & go home, where as here for some morbid reason these young idiots think life in prison is some kind of right of passage. I guess so if you dont enjoy freedom or the touch of a woman, LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Hannan
Find the hunkiest dude in there and suck his dick. He will protect u
I'd be crapping myself if I was going in a US prison. I don't know about dick sucking, I'm more of a tossed salad kind of guy.
More 2 to 8 blows from the top, while the nutter was trying to rip my face open. It's amazing how much of your bjj goes out of the window when you are laid in the snow with a mad man tearing at your mouth.
i am actually in training for the Cook County Correctional Officer physical exams. Two of the guys I used to train with got in. Cant go wrong with starting at $29 an hour
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Originally Posted by brent_littell
and hit the shake weight hard to get your cardio going :)
In all seriousness, that fucking sucks dude, I feel for you, but time 'does' fly so keep your head up :)
I would ensure you work your Butt Drag defense. As in... never go wrestler style referee position. Take it from a wrestler... in prison that move is the rough equivalent of 1st base.
Eyes are your first line of defense (not an expert, but thinking what my approach would be). I'd be good about listening too, oftentimes u should hear something funny before it happens. I would also recommend doing whatever last min reading/studying u can do on what people did to get through prison (Vick, Mayweather, Tyson, etc). I'll pray for u and look forward to ur release.
Paul, I just finished doing 11 years in prison. I've never been to a prison in England nor do I know anything about it. But people are people and that's what I do know.
Do your time, don't let it do you.
Keep your mouth shut if you see anything.
Make the most of it. I worked out, ran, read, bettered myself as much as I could
Pick your friends, DO NOT let them pick you.
Stay away from drugs, alcohol, gambling, gangs, and punks. Every guy I saw get killed or hurt, always had something to do with one of those reasons.
Don't try and be anything you're not.
Don't try and be a bad ass, tell everyone you're a black belt or something stupid like that. When you get into it, and you will get into it, everyone will see what you can do, and the word will spread fast. I'm a white belt in Jiu-Jitsu, and they treated me like I was a UFC champ. Only took one choke out and one arm bar.
Cells are the worse place for a fight. It's a big mans game in there. If you even think you're going to get into a fight, do not step into a cell with a guy that is bigger then you. Handle your business outside the cell.
By all means exercise and work out. Guys that don't go to the yard and hide in their cell are noticed and everyone knows they're hiding from something.
Be prepared for your woman to leave you. It will very likely happen. If/when it does, do not let that get you down. Keep your eye on the prize. The prize is your freedom and release date.
I'm going to be on the road tomorrow. I'm going on a 3 week vacation. If you'd like to talk, you can give me a call or text message me at (424) 477-2074. I wish I could think of more things to tell you to help you out.
I will tell you this, 14 months is nothing. It took me a couple years before I even knew what was really going on inside of prison.
Good luck and if you have any questions feel free to call me. Keep in mind that I am in the states Pacific time zone.
I done some bang up about 10 years ago (only a bunch of dumb driving offences/ driving whilst on a ban etc) here in England, and have to say English prisons are easy time, especially if you have no kids. Playstation in your cell, TV in your cell, multi million £ gyms etc. The only hard thing will be missing the family and friends. There is none of this getting your ass raped and shit - at least not in any jail i have ever been too.
American jails are a WHOLE DIFFERENT ball game. Gangs of what we call in England 'chavvy little twats', however in America they go by 'gangsters' - which they are not. Real gangsters have money, they do not hang around the streets all day, and also they don't go round telling everyone that they are gangsters. Either way, huge gang problems etc in their prisons.
US prisons make UK prisons look like holiday camps. Just read and workout and the time will fly bro. :-)
Thanks John, Sam and everyone these posts mean so much. Inspirational stuff John if you survived 11 years in a US prison and still care about your fellow man - top guy. Cheers for the offer of extra support but what you have written is going to help me more than you'll ever know. Cheers guys.
Looking on the bright side, if the Mayans are right, I'll probably be free before Christmas :D I wonder what will be out first, The Advanced Rubber Guard book or me. I don't think they'll allow the Twister and MTRG books in the slammer for some reason. Maybe the sections on Cannabis and Dmt will persuade the authorities that the books are just trying to spread the love and I'll be allowed them. Then again....
Paul, Sorry, somehow I had your name wrong. I can tell you'll do just fine. Good luck mate.
Pull ups push ups sit ups hip outs gets ups hip ups squats lots of body weights stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfsTKfUT-RQ
That's total bullshit Paul. You are going to the slammer for defending yourself from an attacker???
Have you launched a counter suit or anything? Is your family fighting this decision? WTF is going on here?
lol, and they call it the "justice system"....
This is not unusual in the UK 'justice' system. I think you are meant to disarm your attacker with poetry, as anything else seems to be excessive force. The guy was drunk on my property and attacked me first, and I'm the bad guy. I've been told by my barrister that it was a fair trail and I don't have grounds for appeal - I'm just in shock to be honest.
Leave the country and never go back
I am curious to what happened, if you are willing to share the story. if not, all respected.
Holy Shit this all sucks, sometimes the Legal System in my adopted country really needs to go have a word with itself I'm new on here so dont know if I even have the right to comment. But I've had a few friends that have done some time in the UK, and overseas, and I think compared to a foreign nick you'll do fine.You get some uninterrupted training time, and no bills to pay for around 14-18 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Hannan
On a sidenote, if anyone called "Raymond the Bastard" tries to draw you into anything shady, try to avoid it. The clue's in his nickname...)
Your barrister/legal team sound shit. I'm an ex squaddie who now works in the legal industry, and sometimes it makes me cringe to admit that, I'd rather say I'm a social-worker or something...;)
Sending out a good thought for you fella, keep your eyes open and your mouth shut (and your balloon-knot too...;) and you'll do fine, be out way before your 3 is up.
JB
ps, try not to come out wearing "prison-bitch" style jeans, that's unbecoming at your age..;)
Good luck and be safe fella.
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Originally Posted by Paul Hannan
Yeah, fuck that place. As a member of the British Commonwealth, you can freely pack up and move to Canada.Quote:
Originally Posted by brent_littell
C'mon over. Life here is good, for now, until the New World Order fully gets a chance to sink it's teeth in.