http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/8/24...njury-mma-news
"Dan Henderson got hurt three weeks ago during sparring when he went to defend a takedown and for a while he had to be away from training, for two to three weeks. It was very difficult for him to refuse the fight. All the team had to convince him not to do it."
I know Henderson is a beast of a man and is really tough but seriously? If you cant even train for 2 weeks for a title fight then you must have really busted the knee and that should have been obvious that he wasnt going to be able to fight. Ive never had a serious knee injury so I dont know how it works but had he pulled out 3 weeks earlier maybe UFC 151 would still be rolling
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Originally Posted by Brent Smith
:) lol I'll admit I wasnt too happy with Jones but it does seem like Henderson is more to blame than I originally thought. Granted injuries happen and neither man expected the cancellation of the entire show but to wait till about a week out to pull out is a sucky moveQuote:
Originally Posted by Chris Ludington
What did my Fbook status say?
Yup
this just shows how '' silly '' people are. Dana & thease impulsive iddiots jumping off & on fighters dicks. he even had the audacity to suggest that a dude who cleaned out the 205 division after a few years of training is quote '' Scared & dodging fights '' dodging who ! hes killed everyone. that was the most rediculous shit ive ever heard Dana say. he literally through a fucking 3 year olds temper tantrum for nothing & was completely disrespectful. no wonder mma fans act like such whiney little bitches. Hendo saw Dana at strikforce & didn't say shit. Dana needs to be a man & apologise to Jones
Once again, the blame does go to everyone involved. Been saying that. Now Hendo looks like a bigger idiot. But it still doesn't change the way it makes Jones look. Everyone messed up. But he could've stepped up and saved everyone. He acted selfishly. Those are still the facts. Revealing facts about how everyone else messed up doesn't change Jone's facts. Was he obligated to? No. Was he given an opportunity to act selflessly? Yes. Did he? No. It is what it is.
I dont think it hurts Hendo's stock too much but the whole situation could have been avoided. The fact of the matter is, it did happen and Im sure Jones lost a lot of fans after this one. On top of pissing off the big bosses.Quote:
Originally Posted by David Rosado
Not too sure that it would avoid anything, if you think about it. That just means Jones would've looked like an idiot for ducking a 3 week prepared Chael. LOL. 8 days or 3 weeks, I still think the outcome would've been the same from Jones. I guess it could've helped avoid chaos. And it could've given Chael 3 weeks to talk trash. But I don't think they would've been able to convince Jones to take anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brent Smith
Alfreda Alfreda ! couple of drinks, & she'll love me in the morning !!!!
Have you guys thought that Dan might have not made his injury public, or available to UFC or Jon Jones because he may have been thinking that he was gonna fight while injured? Maybe he did not want jones to target his bad knee throughout the fight? Maybe he is a man and if at all possible he would not pull out of a fight, unlike morally useless Jones who would get an F rating on being a man?
Are you guys so delusional that you think all fighters make all their injurys public to their opponents? Do you think they immediately pull out of fights as soon as there is an injury and especially 3 weeks before a fight where there is chance that things may get better?
Look man not everybody is Jon Jones. This sport is built on the shoulders of guys like Liddell, Couture, Henderson, Fedor, Gracie, Severn and yes even Abbot and Shamrock (who may bitch a lot but will fight till the last drop of his blood). This whole I hurt my fingernail I must pull out of a fight, oh I am sorry I had a full training camp and I am twice the size of my opponent and 10 years younger than him but my fight camp was not exactly designed for this guy so I can't fight bullshit.
Torn mcl
why the scarface reference ! because thats exactly how people like you are acting. '' Like Drunk Bi Polar Bitches '' lolQuote:
Originally Posted by AndyK5
A torn MCL is a little bit more than a broken fingernail. It should have been obvious within a couple days if it would just get better. Or if he could even hide the fact that it was injured enough to even fight.Quote:
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Hey guys, if all my speculation and assumptions are true, then that makes Jones less of a man than me, and Henderson chuck norris 2.0!
What if's, should not lead you into conclusions.
You wanna get upset about people assuming Hendo was being irresponsible without knowing all the facts about his injury, then fine, have at it.
But don't in the same post make an assumption about him being amazing, and then act like it's fact whilst shit talking Jones.
It makes you EXACTLY like those people going after Henderson for not revealing his injury sooner.
Should Henderson of disclosed his injury sooner?
Yes.
Should Jones of taken the fight with Chael?
If he saw fit to.
Should Machida or Shogun taken the fight with Jones?
If they saw fit to.
Should Dana have canceled an entire card because of one fight in it falling through?
No.
Because it shows that he had made a thin card with nothing of value on it, aside from the main event.
Fights we shell out cash for, need to have 2 main even fights, so that the UFC has something to fall back on if one falls through.
Dan should of been more honest with his injury, but at the same time he isn't responsible for anyone but himself, as is Jones, and Dana canceled that card on his own whim.
He's got all the die hard UFC fans convinced that Jones is solely to blame for it, and throwing all the blame away from himself.
He's been bitching about online streaming for so long, so these thin cards are his way of saying "hey, if you don't pay for my shit, the big names aren't going to fight as often" and all it does is damage the careers of the undercard fighters.
And of course, none of them want to openly speak against Dana, because he can change 3 bad fights in a row to two, or even one, and cut them loose.
So does UFC 152 get renamed UFC 151 or is 151 forever going to be "the card that jon jones and greg jackson destroyed"?
You know what, go to any fighter amateur, pro doesn't matter and tell him that as soon as he is hurt before a fight, he must disclose his injury to the promotion which will immediately tell his opponent the same thing. They are going to laugh at you.
At some point Rampage was complaining how snitches were telling his opponents about his injury even though he was not planning to pull out of a fight and he fought with them.
I may be defending the true warriors of this sport from a subjective point of view, but you guys must also accept that you are on the Jon Jones ballsack polishing wagon. The guy does not give rats ass about anything. He does not value other people's lives, he does not value his own friends and sells them out in the first opportunity he gets, he makes fake comments, fakes out caring motions towards his opponents like he is a gentlemen in fake attempt of sportsmanship, contradicts him self every other turn and you guys are like yeah he is right let him make his money and act this way cause I saw him jump over Ryan Bader on the ground in a cool way and i have been a fan ever since.......It's like people with $5 in their pocket and $50k in debt who are losing their homes and cars to large corporations and banks defending Capitalism more than the banks which are taking their life away. Somewhat funny a little bit sad...
Oh and Derick if you can't come up with a coherent answer which describes your feelings and ideas, just link another youtube video and I will try to understand your point.
wah wa wah wa wa wah wa, the charlie brown noise is all i hear when my girl is nagging too lolQuote:
Originally Posted by AndyK5
Exactly why Im not a fan of Jon Jones. Yes hes a good fighter but I have a hard time forgetting that hes so fake.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyK5
Lol I was hoping no one would acknowledge his scarface comments just to see how long he would keep it upQuote:
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http://youtu.be/eUyLwXhqlWUQuote:
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LOLWHAT?
Like I just pointed out, you're just as bad as the Jones "ball sack riders".
I give him props as a good fighter, I accept that he is a human like the rest of us, and power corrupts.
He's a douche, but a great fighter.
Chael has countless fans for being a douche on purpose
Koscheck has fans too......no really, I saw a fan of his once.
Fighters who lose more fights than they win have fans.
Dan Hardy had die hard fans even when he should of been cut.
He's since had a bit of a comeback, but he could of been cut 3 times by now.
You keep forgetting, this is a fighting sport, people will be fans of a fighter BASED ON FIGHTING first and foremost, and then secondly on character.
Hell, Overeem still has million of fans whom seem to think he is top 10 in heavyweight, which is a horrible joke.
Dude is a can crusher, then he fights Werdum in one of the most boring fights in history, and then he kicks brock in his bad liver.
I mean, talk about targeting injuries, he went right for his, no shame at all.
Then fails a piss test.
But he's still seen as some amazing upstanding guy.
Your analogy kind of falls short though too, Jones isn't taking our money, he's getting paid by his sponsors, and by UFC, if you don't watch his fights, he doesn't get your money.
The banks have your money in their pockets, and buy out politicians and take bailout money.
Jones might be a douche, but he isn't hitler, and he doesn't owe you jack shit.
don't be so dense, it's simple, scarface's chick loved him hated him & loved him again. just like mma fans. another qualude another choke out, it's the same shit. 6 months from now the Jones haters will jump right back on his dick & start riding. funny how people get all pissy over shit they can't control. it's just a waste of energyQuote:
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lol cam is funny as hellQuote:
Originally Posted by David Rosado
We are discussing the current MMA news, that's what a forum is for....Quote:
Originally Posted by derrick ikwueme
Caught the reference..you made it pretty clear. Just thought it was funny that you had to make 3 comments about it until someone finally acknowledged you. I have a 3 year old that does the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by derrick ikwueme
Absolutely not. Youre not allowed to have a differing opinion than me. Just a bunch of idiots if you doQuote:
Originally Posted by Mike Dewitt Jr
Hahahahaha x'D *deep breath* Hah... Brent Smith. Every time you post man.. Respect you more and more. But really! This is great! This thread is win. Went and read about Chael's John Jone's pizza deal at his shop then went here and read this. Perfect, just to perfect..