who gave you your blue belt and purple belt in bjj, not jjj.
please keep this thread alive til he answers
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who gave you your blue belt and purple belt in bjj, not jjj.
please keep this thread alive til he answers
His name is Hanno. He inquired about 10th Planet affiliation a while back and claimed to be a bjj black belt. He couldn't verify it so I denied his certification. But he continues to claim that he officially reps 10th Planet which is only gonna bring heat from the local jiu jitsu community in South Africa as well as the 10th Planet association itself. If he would've just came to me as a white belt everything would've been fine but he tried to claim bjj black belt. That was his mistake. I absolutely do not enjoy going public with this but something had to be done to clarify all the misleading information on his website where he uses the 10th Planet logo.
The End.
speaking of the end...in the end i for see alot of guys doing this,trying to ride the 10th planet tsunami..eddie,if they refuse to stop using the name or logo,will you take them to court???
I sure as shit hope so
Just another muppet trying to get on the bandwagon the easy way
Eddie, I can't seem to find the info for becoming an instructor for 10th Planet, etc. Where is that sticky? It disappeared. Much thanks for any reply.
Man people trying like crazy to be someone they aren't. You are who you are. If you are healthy and have 6 pack abs then great you are super cool. If you have one arm and love Wendy's junior bacon chess burgers then thats great too. Your cool as well but don't try to cheat the system you have to train your ass off as well. No shortcuts in life.
truth....Quote:
Originally Posted by don blankenship
well said Don
Man this shit gets old. Seems like after BQ these clowns would have learned something.
I guess, being that I have something called INTEGRITY and pride in my achievements, I don't understand why you'd fake the funk.
Don't go away mad, just go away.
Oh and Brent, its good to see you on here...when I was training at HQ those few months last year, you were always super cool and very helpful. Alabama appreciates it.
What's frightening is that these dudes think that they can open up a gym based on some books and DVDs. Nothing wrong with pulling together a free club where you share information and collectively develop the material but charging people for incomplete information is so beyond unethical. It's just plain dangerous. These douche bags are putting the safety of their students at risk with this bullshit.
I think people need to take warning if you're a fake YOU WILL BE EXPOSED. The longer it takes the worse the fallout will be.
If you don't have a rank don't fake it. If you have the skills of a brown belt then it shouldn't take you long to get through the ranks. Even the best of the best don't skip ranks. That's ridiculous.
I believe there are still some out there to be exposed.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrentSmith
AJ, keep in mind that there are places which aren't nearly on the same level as the US (especially California).
I got a student who's trained mma for a year in south africa. The gym in which he trained had also a "undefeated champion". According to the student of mine (who trained there before he got into my gym) he tapped those guy every class and never tapped to anyone himself...
First week him training at my gym: He tapped to everyone in my gym. Even the guys with less than a month experience.
May be he over-exaggerated but there are definitively places where you are considered to be a "god of grappling" with a (legit) blue belt.
I don't know about that specific guy tho. What I wanted to express with my comment originally I forgot... I got disturbed by a phone call... Just keep in mind there are places without top-notch instructors around, but a need to train... Have a heart :)
I understand the sentiment but there is a difference between just opening up a peer to peer fight club where people pay dues to keep the doors open and a guy who falsely bolsters himself as some sort of instructor capable of teaching the full curriculum of a grappling system. If you want to open a gym you need to be honest about your background and what experience you bring to the table. There are plenty of successful gyms that are owned by people with no martial arts training, but those places fill that void with skilled instructors/members in order to round out their knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthias Sieber
What bothers me is just the straight up unethical dishonesty of dudes who slap MMA on the gym door and then knowingly misspell their JuJitsu as "JiuJitsu" knowing damn well that they have no BJJ lineage. Like the gym I train at, they are very honest about not being associated with BJJ and are proud of their Judo/Sambo lineage.
And you could just be some random Rex-Kwando homebro chillin in your garage charging $50 an hour, training people off of a blurry Yoshiaki "Kumicho" Fujiwara submission grappling video, I don't care. As long as you are honest with everybody who pays, telling them that, you're just "some dude in American Flag pants who found a Fujiwara VHS tape at a yard sale". then it's all fair play to me. Even Bas Rutten doesn't lie, he is actually proud of the fact that many of his early submissions were learned from tapes and magazines.
Have you guys trademarked the 10th Planet name/logo? If you haven't you definitely should. It wouldn't be hard, it's very clear that you have what's called "first use". (im in a copyright/trademark class right now lol)Quote:
Originally Posted by michael craig
Oh for sure but sooner or later they'll get somebody that will trace the lineage and if something turns out fishy then it'll all unravel. There's always gonna be scammers unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie
Yup, 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu is trademarked but I'm not sure how it works outside of the States but either way his students will eventually figure it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Glach
Sounds like your student is full of it.... 2 weeks ago i watched two Afrikaans speaking South african lads tap a Gracie Barra Blackbelt in a no-Gi tournament.... a black belt of 5 years if i'm not mistaken. I also watched as a former European Champion Gracie Brown Belt failed to win a single match out of 7 all of which were South Africans. So i reckon your German buddy was either training at the wrong Gym or is lying through his teeth....Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthias Sieber
Maybe a combination of both. Personally I don't know jack about the grappling/mma/fight scene in africa.
Alder had a seminar this year in south africa as far as I remember.
jip i heard he did. would have been cool to go to. JJ is still small here, but with the growth of mma its picking up. One of the guys who beat the Brazillian is also a bit of an mma beast. He easily beat Trevor Prangly (who recently beat keith Jardine) a while back and i reckon could give quite a few of the ufc heavies a decent go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthias Sieber
But anyhow.... whats the mma scene like there in Hamburg?
It's small, but growing. People begin to figure out slowly they need to stop working against each other.
Amen !!
Agreed, Amen, another fraud exposed!Quote:
Originally Posted by Marius
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Originally Posted by AJ Camacho
I totaly agree with you. Learning from books and DVD's is okay in part that its YOUR OWN growth and learning, But you cant walk around and open up a school thinking your a actual instructor, Thats the best way to end up hurting yourself and others, as well as probobly getting sued. Now if your a student and get a group together with friends or people of common interest and share info, develope your game and teach maybe basics, I dont see anythign fully wrong with that. Even in the military when guys are over seas, my dads told me that theres guys that are blue/purple/ and brown belts, that offer free "classes" to teach basic stuff to people that are interested in learning.
Dont see much wrong in teaching basics to those who want to learn, as long as its nothing intense and as long as there is total control and understanding.
but To take an already established group, its logo, philosophy and game then call it your own or acredit yourself from them has got to be the most disrespectful thing you can do towards every JJ/BJJ practitioner and teacher in the world.
it may work for a little bit, but eventualy, the people who are passionate and dedicated to the art will call you out on it.
I've been lucky enough to train fulltime in brazil, USA and the UK and Imho the standard of bjj is progressing nicely. We're probably 10 years behind the US, and 5 years behind the UK but we're seeing good growth and improvements year on year.
Give us a few more years and there'll be some great jiu jitsu coming out of SA :).
With all the high quality instructional materials out there, I think it is entirely possible to be self taught. All you have to do is drill, spar, compete and repeat. It is hugely advantageous to have an instructor there to point out your mistakes, but in sparring and competing mistakes become self-evident. Any person who has the resources (materials, space, partners, etc.) and a little bit of intuition would have no problem becoming a very good grappler. Look at the moon instructors out there that don't have regular access to instructors and even some guys that are hotboxing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shannon
There's a few BBs whom are pretty popular and prolific in the BJJ community here that were self taught, and that had schools from the beginning (usually as blue or purples). In fact some of the highest ranked BJJ guys here guys that were pioneers in Toronto were self taught, and progressed through the ranks, while having schools, although they indeed had extensive previous martial art training. Only recently a couple Brazilian BBs settled here to either open schools or teach, starting as BBs. Also, Salvosa, one of the guys I speak of, of Salvosa BJJ, is a great inspiration to me in my future ventures.Quote:
Originally Posted by AJ Camacho
They affiliated themselves with various BJJ grand masters, Silvia Behring, and Marcus Soares, who is Carlson Gracie's highest ranked BB, and then did a sort of distance learning through them.
There are a lot of Karate studios with very little actual BJJ experience that now have posters popping up in their windows of them doing arm bars, and yes it seems dangerous; however, I'm not going to criticize them too much, because some people are also quite vocal against blues and purples running BJJ schools. It's all very relative.
jiujitsu is fun but dangerous, & no Karate school should play around with joint locks, and heel hooks, a game of death & dismemberment should be respected
^^ It's true, I agree that it is beyond dangerous.
There is TMA guy here with maybe a year of grappling experience that runs a TMA school and now advertises 'exciting subs' -- in a grappling class that he was teaching he cracked a girl's sternum while doing a elbow to sternum neck crank. :(
I really don't know why they feel they (TMAs) need to put up ads of them doing armbars and rncs all of a sudden.
That is freaking insane. Those old school TMA guys probably scare me the most when it comes to the ad hoc teaching of submissions. Some of those old school karate dudes have those weird sort of 'Foot Fist Way' sort of ego issues that only come from years of developing the proper swagger for board break and freestyle demonstrations. Plus some have a casual "scene it all" type of mentality and think that their 30+ years of karate will seamlessly translate into their ground work allowing them to excel. It doesn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian "ifreez" Freemantle
Wrestlers can scare me too, but that's only when you get the 110% guy who is always trying to impress his invisible coach who's usually his dead dad that taught him wrestling but never told him he loved him. "This 110 percent kimura is for you dad! RAHHHH!! SNAP"
^^^ Haha! I had a guy come in once, an athlete who was totally a 110% type of dude. He was a total beginner who would grad anything and try to twist, pull, squeeze it as hard as he possibly could, all red in his face and all.
Anything he could grab hold of, he put all his power and might into it, leaving no reserves, and his face would get super tense as though he was fighting for his life with one last push.
Funny shit.
damn good analogy AJ, I practice safty at all times, and still get bangged up, when drilling with white belts, sometimes it's like taming a wild animal. so wild animals teaching is a accident waiting to happQuote:
Originally Posted by AJ Camacho
http://www.impawards.com/1990/poster...t_dad_ver2.jpg
i would love to be a 110 percent wrestler if bill cosby was my dead dad / coach that would be funny as