Strikers
1.alistair overeem
2.shogun rua
3.anderson silva
Grapplers
1.aoki
2.jacare
3.demian maia
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Strikers
1.alistair overeem
2.shogun rua
3.anderson silva
Grapplers
1.aoki
2.jacare
3.demian maia
strange that übereem is ur first choice on strikers :P
I personally feel that Frankie Edgar deserves a top 3 spot on strikers tho
i'd actual agree with overeem being #1 atm, he's been dominating people lately, in K-1 also, i'd debate the other choices tho.
then again i am a ubereem fanboy, but how can you not be!
This cant be in order??? Silva has to be the top guy... I mean, he punched a dude in the ankle, for crying out loud. Here's my list...
Strikers
1. Anderson Silva
2. Cung Le
3. Melvin Manhoef
Grapplers
1. Jacare Souza
2.. Jake Sheilds
3. Mayhem Miller
No love for these grapplers?
Matt Horwich
Dustin Hazelett
Minawaman
Strikers:-
1) Anderson Silva
2) Chuck Liddell
3)Overeem
Grapplers:-
1) Jacare
2) Sheilds
3) Randy Couture
The grapplers was a much harder list for me to decide on, there's alot of top notch guys to choose from. I think there are some guys in mma who have better grappling ability then my top three, but, they don't have same success with it in mma as they have had in pure grappling competition.
Strikers;
1)Alistair Overeem
2)Anderson Silva
3)Jose Aldo
Grapplers;
1)Shinya Aoki
2)Jacare Souza
3)Jake Sheilds
I don't personally feel like Frankie would be successful in K-1 like Overeem has been. Don't get me wrong I think he's got some good hands and great foot work, but, I think he'd still be out classed by the K-1 guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by nabbflax
Strikers: 1. Anderson Silva 2. Jon Jones 3. Shogun Grapplers: 1. Roger Gracie 2. Jacare 3. Jake Sheilds
Dont have to be a great kicker to be an awesome striker and personally I think speaking K1 that Overeem would have problems with Pat Barry in K1Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Maxwell
And D.Stachovak I agree that Dustin should be top 3 grappler
Alot of K-1 guys don't throw alot of kicks. Overeem, mostly only uses leg kicks or knees. I just think K-1 guys are way ahead of mma guys when it comes to striking. Frankie is lacking in power, K-1 guys have over an 80% knock out rate. Frankie, I don't think, has ever knocked anyone out in the UFC.Quote:
Originally Posted by nabbflax
well that may be, actually never seen a K1 lightweight fight.
Strikers:
1. Anderson Silva
2. Shogun Rua
3. Jose Aldo
Grapplers:
1. Roger Gracie
2.Jacare
3. Tie: Jake Shields and George Sotiropoulos
Check out the K-1 World Max Japan Championships. They have the, 70kg/154lbs weight class and the 63 kg/139 lbs weight class. Exciting and explosive fighters!Quote:
Originally Posted by nabbflax
Top 3 MMA grapplers (of all time)....Saku and Big Nog for submissions, Couture for takedowns and control. :)
it's always hard to make a list of the best. that's so subjective. but here are my favorites to watch:
strikers:
1. cung le. no question.
2. lyoto machida
3. anderson silva
grapplers:
1. jacare
2. aoki
3. jake shields
Shogun Rua is the best striker in MMA. Yodsenkalai Fairtex is the baddest dude standing, but wont ever fight MMA.
Not qualified to comment on the grapplers but I like Aoki best.
Strikers:
1/ Overeem
2/ Anderson
3/ Manhoef
Grapplers:
1/ Aoki
2/ Jacare
3/ Maia
Also, I don't agree with the Edgar one. He's definitely shown promise and huge improvement lately, but I don't think that excessive movement without as many strikes as he could warrants him to be top 3. And his striking lacks diversity compared to many top strikers in terms overall striking.
Machida? the same one that got out struck by shogun twice?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren
Wow I cant believe how much love jake shields is getting! I mean yea he's a beast, but top 3 grapplers in mma?!?!?! wowww... aoki, jacare for sure, i have to think about a third
like i said, not necessarily the best, but my favorite to watch. what machida does is absolutely beautiful to behold. though, i do think he happens to also be one of the best strikers in MMA. being out struck by shogun does nothing to diminish your reputation in my eyes. shogun is fantastic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pourya Samari
Jake Shields made Dan Henderson look like a child on the ground. He completely dominated him. Finished 3rd at ADCC back in 2005. Has some of the best MMA oriented grappling you will see. His game is amazing to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Glach
When the top people are at the top of their game, it sort of comes down to what tools you have in your tool box. They are both the truely special strikers. My theory is then it comes down to how their skill sets interact. Machida is an amazing striker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren
Fundamentally though, if you dont have a check, your an easy target. It surprises me how far MMA fighters seem to be able to get when they cant check a kick. Getting out of the way is only a defence against people slower than you.
So much love for Shields here but no mention of GSP or Fitch? Who are like copies of each other...
He wasnt that awesome in the strikeforce fight against hendo tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren
And Hedo was a beast in pride. but he is OLD now, and it would be strange if a young guy with some skill didnt beat him
Not only is Jake top 3 but he's arguably number 1. And I'm not a Skrap Pack fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Glach
Just ask Denny
strikers 1 anderson silva 2 sho gun 3 alister overeem.
grapplers 1 damian maia 2 bj penn 3 fabricio werdum
cant wait so see him out skilled both standing and on the ground come okt 23.Quote:
Originally Posted by NelsonLucca