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I am wondering if this move( Epsticutioner) is still a part of the system, if not was it flawed in some way? The video with Josh Barnett pulling it off is very educational IMO. Here's the video for those who don't know what I'm talking about its at the 5 min mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=uvIbn30xsDc#!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=uvIbn30xsDc#
Embedding for you. I dont' know the answer.
I believe Brian Locke a 10P Omaha guy hit one at the Midwest Submission Challenge to win his division. He sets it up on me sometimes...i avoid it like the plague. So i mean i guess it is?
Being a bigger guy I love north south position, but had never seen this move before. Definitely going into the arsenal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cody Kietzman
I use the move frequently, usually after a failed N/S choke. Obviously it's not legal in most tournaments unless you're dong adult advanced.
"Doing" not "dong" :)
Any nuisances you can recommend to ensure success of the technique?Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Mattke
As Cody said earlier, I do tend to use this from north-south most of the time. This is one of the first moves I learned about 2 years ago from John Botello. I have been told that I do the move differently then it is taught. I overhook the free arm and pull thier body up on my hips before setting it in. Here is the video of the match Cody referred to, it is at the 7 min mark.
http://youtu.be/O-1tCe1w2pY
that's a really nice finish, brian. i need to add this into my game. it would fit right into some of the things i already like.
Sick finish man!
Once you pull someone up onto your hips i think your pretty helpless (at least i feel that way) it kinda sucks...
i use this sub alot. deff still in the system :)
so germany isnt letting me see the first video but im just wondering if its necessery to have the one leg pressed on the guys back or if its ok to just get the other leg around the body? definitly wanting to try this out. not only is it a great technique, it sounds awesome aswell :D
Thats because its a neck crank right? You can do neck cranks if theres a choke there as well though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Mattke
That was bad ass! I'm so adding this to my game! I fuck up my north souths a lot so its awesome to have a back up plan. :)
I find it works better with the leg behind the back. It lifts the head off mat and able to get more leverage. The leg on the body pushes down, the leg/knee in the back pushes up and the arm around the head is pretty much cranking.
I have done this in a match where no cranks were allowed and nothing was said about it. I am not sure if the ref didn't realize what it was or it is not considered a crank....
Dragon Sleeper/Beast Choker ;)
Brian's gotten really good at this submission ! It's definitely legit I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be part of the system anymore.
Is there any choke in there or is it all crank? Just wondering as it would fit very well in my game.
im glad you all like..play with it but be careful with it.
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This move looks awesome.
I go for the d'arce from there all the time but this looks like you can finish without your opponent turning away... Muhaha
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Originally Posted by einstein
Can I ask how you thought of this move or was it taken from another martial art?
so its a north south arm triangle then you throw your leg over like you would for a guillotine ?
I tend to avoid entering those types of tournaments! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Mattke
Very few moves I hate, and this is one of them. I always think about using it as I'm there a bunch, but refuse to on priciple. Right up there with that dam Dan Sevrin move Eddie does. This thread should be deleted, so nobody else tries this dumb ass crank. At least with the twister you can apply slowly. Everytime I have submitted to this the guy just cranks and I can't tap fast enough to prevent minor injury. I don't use it, cuase I never want anybody to use it on me. I might use it in a comp, if it were legal, but never,never in training and never never in training with somebody I don't know very well and train with often. Be a man and try and finish with a choke. might be the worst move in all of BJJ. The art might be better of to just let this one go.
Wow it's that bad?