http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvNLSz5wlOY
I like how this is prefaced with if you're bored. Not "Watch this if you care" or something like that.
im bored, high and listening.
It's never boring when talking jiujitsu son
i listened to the podcast but this has an extra half hour of chat. awesome.
These London Real guys are really fantatstic by the way, their podcast is brilliant. I found them through Joe Rogans Podcast and now i'm just as addicted to theirs as I am Rogan's. Really great stuff.
Eddies coming in April/May!!!!! oh shit son!!!!!!!
cool stuff
I'm bored! :)
Did Nic come roll Eddie?
Bit of footage on the next MTS maybe?
Awesome!
I really liked all the points talked was a good podcast.
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Originally Posted by Tim Bruhn
Great podcast! Just found out about these London Real dudes from Joe's podcast. I really enjoyed their interview with Roger Gracie and The Warrior Poet as well.
This was a great interview! Eddie you are an interesting and very relatable man.
I found it very strange that you consider the government's position on cannabis to be a conspiracy theory. I do see how it could be seen that way but I don't think it fits the mold of a conspiracy theory because in my mind a conspiracy is intentionally covered up or denied, despite the knowledge of the truth. In the case of cannabis I don't believe that the anti-cannabis crowd has ever known the truth. They actually believe its an evil drug. The Reagan administration did do some things regarding cannabis that are very conspiracy like. Another thing is that although it's much too rare, when science has been given access to cannabis, the research produced did not support the government policies and the data was made accessible to the public. (with a couple reagan era exceptions) So I think of it more as a campaign of misinformation (but they believed the misinformation). Conspiracies are covered up and conducted by a covert group, this was all done in front of our faces.
The government know full well the benefits of it, yet they continue the spreading of misinformation that they KNOW is not true. If there wasn't a conspiracy, it'd be legal already. The fact is that many companies will lose a lot of money if Cannabis and Hemp suddenly became legal. The same kind of companies that made it illegal in the first place. Wood, Alcohol, Tobacco...Quote:
A conspiracy is intentionally covered up or denied, despite the knowledge of the truth
Who's going to be cutting down 50+ year old trees when you can harvest a far superior material within a few months of it growing?
Dude I live in Humboldt, I grew up around cannabis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Chow
You wrote that the government knows the benefits of it, in very recent times this is a stronger argument but in truth I would have to disagree that the members of our government really know much of anything about cannabis.
Misinformation has been spread in some instances ie D.A.R.E. program, but I would still contend that the majority of people involved believe the bullshit they were spreading.
If the hemp industry was developed it would compete with many industries, true, once it was developed which would take some time may be decades. There is a little evidence that in the early history of cannabis laws corporate interest pushed to make cannabis illegal. Big surprise we have unchecked capitalism, business influence everything, still not a conspiracy.
If the emperor of hemp Jack Herer says it's a conspiracy then I say it's a conspiracy :)
http://vid111.photobucket.com/albums...AE1D2BA603.jpg
I guess its just a matter of opinion based on how you define a "conspiracy theory" and if you think that the elected officials who have implemented cannabis laws over the years really believed cannabis was bad or were just doing the business of corporations. I would still maintain based of what I understand to be the definition of "conspiracy theory" and what I think I know about the history of cannabis laws that it just doesn't fit into the conspiracy theory category.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory
The picture of anslinger is actually a great point in support of my case. Ansiliger definitely genuinely believed cannabis was evil. Aslo like I mentioned before one of the times that the government actually did let scientist test cannabis was under anslinger. It was called the La Guardia Committee and even though it was funded and called for by the government, the scientist came back saying that weed is ok.
http://cannabizu.com/the-right-educa...nspiracy-.html
http://www.alternet.org/story/77339/...spiracy_theory
"She was just handing me the vagina. And I couldn't move"
"look at your eyes"
hahahaha great stories. dope interview so far!
911 is a conspiracy theory and most people AND politicians believe tower 7 collapsed at free fall speed because it got too hot. Only a very few people at the top know exactly what really happened. Most people think 911 truthers are full of shit :-)
Jack Herer is the emperor of hemp, the godfather of the marijuana movement and he says the prohibition of weed is a conspiracy so I'm gonna go with him on this one, he's a bad muthafucka :-)
I'm not exactly sure I'm getting you on the 911 stuff.
Jack was a great man. I didn't know him but we got to smoke at a little event he was at once up here. I have the emperor wears no clothes and have been familiar with his work for many years. He left a great legacy of hemp/cannabis advocacy and activism, no doubt. One of the first guys I ever read on the subject. The links I posted are in regard to some of his ideas. Like I said, its a matter of opinion.
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So you're saying that they first got scientific evidence that Cannabis is harmless under Anslinger, yet he still believed it was an evil drug? Then he believed it was evil because he wanted to spread misinformation, he just ignored the science and continued his vendetta to make it illegal. If that isn't a conspiracy, then 9/11 was aliens.
Dude, Cannabis is EVERYWHERE, I've also grown up around it, your location is pretty irrelevant. It's like me saying I'm right about The Beatles because I live in Liverpool.
Event: Immensely beneficial plant is illegal.Quote:
A conspiracy theory explains an event as being the result of an alleged plot by a covert group or organization or, more broadly, the idea that important political, social or economic events are the products of secret plots that are largely unknown to the general public.
Plot: Don't let people have access to beneficial plant, force them to use dangerous pharmaceuticals and non-renewable resources instead to give us more money.
Hemp is used now for food, construction, clothing, etc. It definitely wouldn't be "decades" before it took off, as it's already widely used.
Well on location being irrelevant, you just simply don't know what you're saying. Your bettles analogy is a mile off. If they were still all alive and formed the number one source of income for your county, many times over the seconds place you'd be getting closer. The price of a pound of weed is a news story here buddy. You can see a friend of mine in the minidocumnetry at his dispensary.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humbold...rnia#Marijuana
http://www.times-standard.com/ci_19468078
http://www.hcn.org/issues/43.13/ganj...of-pot-country
http://kymkemp.com/2012/aug/30/super...-humboldt-sup/
https://www.youtube.com/results?hl=e...-8&sa=N&tab=w1
Yes some of the first research indicating that cannabis is harmless was found under anslinger. Yes, he believed the scientist were wrong. Many people even today for various reasons choose not to belive data.
Again, matter of opinion. I happened to have some pretty stacked credentials when its comes to the topic. In my op, I made what I think are some worthwhile points. In response I linked to some very well written articles that refute point for point Jacks take on history. None of that has been addressed or refuted. If no ones willing to read beyond what they already think they know we're all just going to stick with what we already believe.
For these reasons, unsubscribed. I was really after Eddies interpretation of how he sees this fitting the definition of conspiracy theory or how he defines a conspiracy theory. I don't tell people I think DNA is a double helix because James Watson thinks so.
I also happen to have some stacked credentials, I smoke weed every day son (fictional story, I've never touched it).
If you've never been to Europe, we don't have the benefit of Medical Marijuana to use it as a source of income, it's been illegal since day one of the prohibition era. Even in Amsterdam it's illegal, just tolerated. A lot of Amsterdam's income is drug tourism, too. If cannabis was legalised tomorrow, it would become one of the top sources of income for the whole of the United Kingdom.
Like I said, cannabis grows everywhere. Whether it's on a large scale or small, it's a plant. The fact is, your location IS irrelevant. You don't have to live in a county where Cannabis is grown on a large scale to understand it. Your plants probably grow way better in the climate there, of course, but growing is just simple science that anybody can learn, regardless of location. It's like you saying that a Brazilian black belt has more credentials than an English black belt, just because of where he is from, and that is certainly not true.
The Beatles, actually, are a pretty hefty source of income for Liverpool. Tourists every single day flock here because of them. A lot of them are Japanese and know way more than I do about The Beatles. You know why? It's called research.
So you agree that Anslinger ignored science and continued to spread misinformation? You also agree that people still ignore Science to this day, for their own personal vendettas, to keep Marijuana illegal. That my friend, is a conspiracy.