Please help me with Rubber Guard

First of all I say my 2 favoritest thing is singing and fighting BJJ. I been in the game for only 2 years and only been competing for about 6 months, this next tournament Texas Open on Sat will be my 6 tournaments this year. I've been practicing really hard everyday with my dad the traditional BJJ and has come to the top of my division. But at the gym, I'm still having trouble with the bigger boys, those that are 90 lbs and over. You see I'm a 62 lbs girl. With the traditional BJJ close guard, I get smash by them all the time. One day my dad found a bunch of vids on this Rubber Guard thing and we start working on it. Its only been 1 month and i'm already winning most of my sparring with it. I am also able to control the 90 lbs boys with the "crack head", but when I transition to a submission, they still smash me. What technique is best to use against their weight and strength? I really love this Rubber Guard. I will try to tapout everyone at this next tournament with it since we practice so hard on it. And if anyone out there have time, please go see my vids on Youtube and advice me on what I can do to improve my skill with the rubber guard. You can find me under MPREAP......

Thank you so much Master Eddie you are awesome!!!!!

Get your Dad to pick up the Rubber Guards books and DVDs if there is no 10th Planet school near by. Keep it up!!

where he buy one at? AMAzon?

Just want to share why I love this rubber guard thing. Only 5 days of practice, I'm pull this off in a tournament.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJHsZS1hFLM

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Originally Posted by Cora Sek

where he buy one at? AMAzon?

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you can buy them from the store on this site, and Eddie even signs them for you :D

Sign up for a pro membership to the cite here. Get to ever seminar possible. Of your in crack head you have the flexability for invisible collar. Find the path that works best for you and reps, reps, reps. Good luck!!!

Against bigger guys i find Carney is my go to move. If for some reason you miss hooking the leg, going jiuclaw is an attack and you are no longer underneath a bigger person.
gogo-plata, carny, jiuclaw, back attack.

Work on the basic path and breaking down the opponent when they are in your closed guard and resisting with posture. If you can't break them down and keep them down, which is often the case with a stronger opponent, then the probability of getting a finish from rubber guard is going to be low. If you drill the moves and you aren't working on your clinch, then you're going to pick up bad habits.

When you do get there, remember: Hug around the knee tight; go wrist to ankle, don't pull on your foot; make sure your free leg is always tight so you don't risk getting passed; curl the toes back for extra leg strength.

The leg curls are important, the point of the guard is to keep everything tight and secure to stop punches, whilst having the option to attack. The moment you go loose, they'll just pop out. Position before submission, as they say :)

i would also suggest really working on your flexibility. its a key to rubber guard and helps with such things like double bagging, though that could be harder against bigger guys. get the books and dvds but your best bet will be to find the closest 10th planet. preferably a moon but the hotboxes are all great aswell.

get ur reps in and good luck. rubber guard is a great position and i hope u do well.

I found this on youtube, I’m assuming this is you? If so, I believe I’ve seen you compete in person before. I’m at a lot of tournaments in the Houston area, you and your dad should say what’s up :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0N-0DDaQro

Here’s my critique of the vid:
First of all, extremely impressive jiujitsu overall, and I’ve seen black belt world champs grab rubberguard and it look worse.

@ 0:15 The “flow” (found in mastering the rubberguard) would work well for you. Basically it uses the opposite leg hook on his instep to feed I your butterfly. As someone small, I would recommend you learn to use butterflies as well.

@ 1:40 I would personally grab my shin (or his head) on the triangle and stay crunched into him. Posture is everything. Great triangle from rubberguard.

@ 3:50 you can you your right leg to move his arm over as it clears the head for the “east coast crock” (without giving up posture). That and the invisible crock are favorites of mine

@ 4:11 Important, you’ll see this stack for the rest of your ruberguard playing days. Switching New York to an over hook (wizzer) and taking a butterfly guard sweep is a great way to capitalize on this. You can stick with rubber guard instead and try and work an angle, but good luck against a wrestler way heavier than you. Learn to butterfly sweep there.


Outstanding job, keep up the good work. By the way, we have a 10th planet hotbox in Beaumont (probably about an hour and a half or so away from you, depending on your location in Houston) that you and your dad are welcome to visit anytime. If not, say high at the next comp. Good luck :)

Hi this is Cora's dad. Thank you everyone for taking the time to share their knowledge. I'm so glad we found this site. And thanks especially to Mr. Debes. To give such advice and breaking it down the way you did must have taken much of your time. Well this weekend Cora competed in the Fight to Win Texas Open in Spring, Tx. She took 1st place in No-gi and 2nd in Gi. All of her win come by way of tap out. Actually ALL of her win since she started competing come by way of tap out. I guess I didn't train her to collect points. Anyways, the only reason why she didn't win 1st place in the Gi was that she couldn't finish the fight using the Rubber Guard. I told her to save the Rubber Guard for the toughest kid in her division, sure enough she face him in the final and she pulled a beautiful rubber guard that he couldn't get out of. She got to crack head, then double bagged, and then the triangle come. But she couldn't finish because he was holding her leg and she couldn't pry his hand out. She tried squeezing as hard as she could, but she was weaken by the flu and didn't have much strength. She's been sick the entire week prior to this fight. She was lucky to get well enough to even show up to compete. Well, she tried to readjust to get his arm out, but the kid manage to bust out of her guard and pass. So he end up winning with that pass. But everyone there know who really won that fight. You can watch this fight on our channel under MPREAP and Fight to Win. Sometimes going to every tournament has its downfall. All of the coaches know about her Triangle and they prepare their kids to defend it. This kid that she fight, well she had already tapped him out in the prior tournament with a rear naked choke and it was nasty, video of that is also available, just search for "Kids BJJ...squeeze harder than an Anaconda"....:) This is only her 1st month working on the Rubber Guard, I'm thinking she will be much better in a few more months, especially with yall help.

All of her matches from Fight to Win are now up on Youtube. I know yall are BJJ and fight fans so I told her to do her best and give everyone a good show and show the world that even a tiny little 9 year old asian girl have some fight in her.

Thank you once again and good night.

Wow, was reading this like 62lb.....does she mean 62kg > Nope! Very impressive, I'm a complete noobie so won't go handing out advice. Just giving you props - keep it up Cora!

I only saw the one called rubber guard city, and wow that was impressive! I love seeing younger kids using such great technique! Keep it up!!

This is Cora's dad. Its been 6 wks now since Cora started learning the Rubber Guard and things are improving a lot. She's beginning to develop that squeezing power, believe me, I can't hardly handle it anymore when she squeeze. And when she get a really good invisible collar, I can't just power out of it anymore. We been working on tightening up all her transition points so that she keeps everything tight when transitioning. As of right now she is able to pull off submissions like, triangle, armbar, gogoplata, omoplata, and carni with no problem. Just with these submissions alone, I believe she will win most of her matches. We are basically sticking with these basic attacks for now, and trying to polish them up. She is able to break posture against the boys her size, but having problem with kids that have about 30-40 lbs on her. At the gym, she is running clinic with the rubber guard on the lower belts and I sometimes feel bad that she is using such advance moves on them....:):) But hey that is how this sport is because before she got to this point, the higher belt and the bigger boys have been using her as a grappling dummy. Now its her turn, right?? Sometimes even her coaches and other parents are left scratching their head as to how she comes up with all these techniques in such a short time....:):) Right now our focus is on NAGA in dallas on dec 16. And her goal is to go undefeated again....so she training hard for it. Over the holiday she have been training hard and today is her 1st day back at the gym, I can't wait to see her sparring session...will post it up soon.

Cora's Dad, I think it's fantastic that you are so supportive of Cora on her Jiu Jitsu journey.
I grew up in a martial arts environment and I know it was the most positive thing I could have been put into as a kid. Now that I'm a father of two girls, I have encouraged my girls to learn Jiu Jitsu as well, because BJJ is #1 for a woman to defend with against a single attacker who wants to take her to the ground and get between her legs. I'm not going to waste their time with Karate or whatever, other than teaching them effective striking.

I would encourage you to go the the online store here and buy the books if you don't have them already, because you can learn the entire base of the system from those books and add to her game as she gets more and more comfortable with rubber guard. The Eddie Bravo videos are amazing as well.

Keep supporting her. It's great to see.

Awesome to see Cora and Cora's dad out learning what works. It's that extra R&D that you do on your own that propels you to that next level, and Cora is well on her way!!

Thanks for reaching out to the forum, and yes, it would help a lot if there was a hot box in your area, like minded jiu jitsu practitioners, or 10th Planet Ronin that you can collaborate with!

Awesome. Sounds like Cora will be one to watch on the world stage in the future :-)

This is Bruce, Cora's dad. Cora is so tired from her sparring session today that she is sound asleep already. Today she took on the biggest and best 10 year old boy in the gym. Even though he is about 45 lbs heavier than her, she gave a good fight. She threw everything except the kitchen sink at him, but he bust threw it all. She tried the rubber guard, he went threw that then she transition into a triangle, he smashed that also. He stood up and tried to smash her from the top, she did an X guard thing that look like the electric chair ( to my surprise since we haven't work on that yet) and spun out the back door which left the coach and I speechless. THen she put him in the spider guard, he smashed that also. He was ready to mount her, but she spun out again to the back and took his back for a rear naked choke instead. Of course he didn't tap out because he's so thick and big and has no neck to choke on. Needless to say Cora was so bummed out about that. But I told her she will never had to compete against anyone like him and that what she just did would have tap out anyone her size. ANd not to mention all her transitions are like that of blue belt adults....so that cheered her up some.

btw...i've been reading on here about a hot box...what is that???

Kurzy: you are a parent of girls also, so I know exactly where you are coming from. That is my greatest fear also, that something like that might happen to my daughter. I started out wanting to train her to protect herself even before we got involved with BJJ. But from the very first day that we visited her current gym, Cora wrote me a note saying " Daddy, I love this." From that day on, we train like she is a prize fighter. She train at the gym for an hour, I record every sparring session. We get home, we go over the film so we can reinforce what she did right and correct what she did wrong. After school she does her homework and whatever time we have left, we practice at home before we go to the gym. This cycle repeats for 5 days a week. ANd on the weekend, this is where I teach her new techniques and we drill and drill and then we spar. Ever since we start doing BJJ, she is more focus and getting straight A's in school. She become an honor student and spelling B champion of her school. Also before we put her in BJJ, she was in gymnastic for a year...but she can't even do a proper cartwheel. But now since she been in BJJ for 2 years now, she is like a gymnist. She is much more flexible now and she is the fastest kid in the gym. SHe is so much stronger now in every aspect. BJJ has changed our lives not just her. We do this as a family. Its not just something for Cora now, its for all of our family. Its our lifestyle. Now we don't even watch tv anymore, we just watch film of her tournaments and sparring sessions.
Look on youtube for " Cora's BJJ sparring session 112612" to see how hard she train today.

I will try to check it out tonight when I get home.

As far as I understand it, hotbox is a group of people that train specifically in the 10th planet system, learning from the books and videos and MTS episodes, but they are not an official "School".
More like a group of 10P enthusiasts that work together to master the system. It's like the beginning of a 10P school in an area that deosn't have one though.

Stephen Kesting has a two DVD Sets called "How to Defeat a Bigger Stronger Opponent' as well as many videos online from and in supplementation to them. These are probably the best resources out there for learning the adjustments, techniques, and details for optimally handling weight differences, here are some examples of his content:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV692quvkYc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2OAJF__P2w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mCvxNQk6oc

Alot of them include details from a female blackbelt who deals with larger guys alot. The website for them is http://www.grapplearts.com/biggerstronger and http://www.grapplearts.com/Blog/bigg...nger-series-2/, but theres alot of content on youtube.

Brandon Mullins, the guy who teaches alot of the small guy vs big guy stuff with stephen is actually in houston, I strongly recommend trying to get in contact with his gym since its right near you, and hes an expert at small vs big jitsu. He is only 118lbs and competes against top class competitors.

DanConway: thanks I have been to their site many times and watched practically all of their vids...they are one of the reason why my daughter is processing so fast...:):) Yes youtube is like a library of BJJ info for us to supplement what is being taugh at her gym. But the best find of all is this place and the RUBBER GUARD....:):)

LOL Brandon Mullin??? we been watching all of his vids yesterday.... and yes he is in Houston as we saw him in action 2 weeks ago for the super fight at Fight to Win Texas Open. And guess what???? His 2nd fight was again my daughter's coach Cameron Graves. That has got to be the best fight we've seen in person. My daughter's coach is only 18 years old and holds a Blue Belt, but that day....that day he fought like a season black belt just like Brandon. Brandon hit Cameron with everything he got and scoring points, but he couldn't finish Cameron off. Cameron was like a BJJ Houdini or something, keep on escaping everything and doing some scoring himself. But at the end of it all, Brandon was too seasoned of a fighter. Both guys earned each other's respect.