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It was so great when Diaz dropped his hands and taunted Henderson and Henderson dropped him with one punch. This guy is a great guy to represent the sport of MMA. He has moved right up there in my book with GSP for Favorite fighters. He stuck to his plan and executed it perfectly with skill, determination and focus!!!
he is really good and is a great role model. i like both diaz bros and wanted nate to win. he was out classed for sure. when ben started throwing the thigh punches and kinda smurked at diaz i knew he was going to throw a bomb. great set up.
Henderson was just too powerful for Diaz. His Korean heritage has blessed him with superior genetics. :)
I agree! Classy fighter, he fought a really intelligent fight. Keeping out of range of Nate Diaz's sick boxing and also slipping out of some solid submission attempts. Nate Diaz, love the guy and wholey shit can he fight but hes predictable isnt he?
Yeah how sick was that overhand left from that punch to his knee?!
TBH I cant think of a fighter that rubs me up the wrong way more than Benson Henderson. Great fighter but just not a fan. :-)
Couldn't agree more. Perfect game plan, Diaz was outclassed but I cheer against Henderson everytime he fights, but always bet with him!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Sales
Henderson is a great tactician, and a great fighter. He's a lot like GSP in that sense. Along with the fact that both fighters seem to win decisively by decision as opposed to a ko/tko or submission. They have great gameplans that without a doubt make them clear victors, but I think this style of fighting has really shifted the dynamic of what MMA has become, and while technically it's easy to admire, fight nights have become more of a "sporting event" as opposed to actual fights. I'll say that I felt ben was trying to finish, and that nate is just hella tough, but his focus on the gameplan is what makes him a great technician, but not the greatest fighter in my opinion.
as far as a role model, to me he's a closet case smart ass who still comes across as quite arrogant while wearing the mask of congeniality. He may not talk alot of trash, but his aura and non verbal gestures aren't exactly the saint that some people paint him out to be. He has a strut to him that at times annoys me, and things like the toothpick deal or facial expressions (if in fact was a reality) show how he's just as likely to display his sense of self assuredness in just as, if not, more of an unsportsmen like conduct as any bad boy of the sport. But I guess this is an expression of what fans want to see, and Benson is happy to follow suite. To me, I'd rather someone be consistent and/or blatantly honest with their self expression as opposed to a half in half out approach that to me is hypocritical of it's stance as good or bad. At least then it's totally genuine and you can call it for what it is, rather than pretentiously taking the high road only to stoop just as low in intent at the end of the day.
but that's just my opinion. I'm still a fan of his tactical prowess, and the skills that he exemplifies in the ring, but he's not a guy I would really wanna hang out with or idolize in terms of a role model.
Ben Henderson irritates me... His personality and bible bashing gets old... I'm impressed he didn't dedicated his fight to Jesus this time lol
watched the post conference. Benson is a pretty intelligent guy. He's not like a total douche or anything, but i don't see him galloping on a white horse. ya know? He's good with the media, and good with words. A plus for any professional fighter who has to interact with the media.
he actually got a question about that in the post conference which was a little crass (spelling) to me. He did say that all things are possible through christ, which is cool and all, but what about the guy who can't seem to beat you but believes in christ as well. Is his fellowship or worship less devout than yours? I guess in that sense the morality of destroying your opponent in the name of christ had a reason to be questioned, but how uncommon is that theme in history anyway?
Now I'm being the smart ass!
Most fighters who are religious call out Jesus during the interview. Jon jones does it , I think Vera did it. A ton more doQuote:
Originally Posted by John Alighieri
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Originally Posted by Louis Ho
Benson is a beast in the division and is going to give a lot of guys major problems just because of his athleticism, never mind his fighting skills. I'm interested to see who he fights next. Love him or hate him he usually makes for a good fight :)
Nate got controlled soooo hard in this match, it wasn't even funny.
I saw someone saying "I respect Nate, when even in the 5th round, was sticking to his gameplan, mean mugging and pushing forward".
Well I kinda DIDN'T respect him for that...when something stops working, you have a backup.
I would love to see when Nick or Nate's technique stops working, they switch to...I don't know, actually just fighting and pushing the pace?
Every hand wave, every mean look, is a second they aren't striking or landing something, and on easily flustered fighters that might work, but not at a championship level.
I wanted BJ to win, and Nate to take the belt.
Really disappointed.
You guys are crazy. You don't have to agree with or even like Henderson's religious devotions; I understand. But to hear him talk after the fight about the brevity of life, seizing the moment, the importance of family over all else... that's the kind of stuff I love to hear. He earned my respect.
I love the Diaz brothers but I never thought Nate was anything more than a punchers chance in this fight.
He's a technical striker, with good pressure and amazing submission to fall back on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam1987
What's lacking from him is strength, wrestling, and a good game plan.
He seems to go in with the same idea for every fight, go in, fluster his opponent with superior striking/pressure/taunting, till it either goes to the ground or he peppers them up to victory.
Everyone talks about the Diaz brothers amazing conditioning, but I don't think they use that tool to it's fullest.
I mean there is only so long you can get by being tossed stand up fighters whom have never been into the 4th round, and succeed.
You gotta fight the top guys eventually, and very few of them will lose face simply from being flipped off, or taunted.
I would say Ben is one of the most genuine people Ive ever had the chance meet person to person. When I lived in Phx I got the opportunity to train with him at the Lab, and I had no idea that he was anyone until the instructor told me. He wasnt the person to go around talking about his feats or what he had accomplished. And when someone would try to boost his ego and tell him how great he did after a fight.. All youd here him say was how good the other fighter was, and how he was just blessed with a "good day" in that specific instance. Im not sure why so many people think hes cocky.. maybe you are just seeing something i cant, or maybe its the insecurities that come with seeing a guy that good at fighting.. But I can say as far as my experience with him.. I have never heard him say anything negative about one person, nor have i heard him say anything that would place himself on a pedestal.. If anything.. he seemed to try to lower peoples views of him by talking about how hes not as great as they make him sound.. and not taking the credit for what gifts he does have. But nevertheless, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.. Mine just happens to be.. Hes a great fighter, and an even better person outside of the cage.
oh yeah.. and he ALWAYS had a toothpick in his mouth :P
I wonder how people would act if you were like, "I'd like to thank Zues for leading the attack against Chronos and saving humankind." XD
I'm not saying he's a total dick, or that I don't like him at all... He definitely has nice things to say at the right times. But I guess it's always the right time to say something nice:rolleyes:. I wouldn't say he's two faced or anything, just calculated about how he represents himself. He does try to downgrade the attention on his accomplishments, and constantly promotes his team and those close to him which is nice to see and hear. I liked what he had to say about everything in the post conference I just think that some of that is to suffice the image that he's building of himself.
I may come off as a hater when I'm actually a fan, but it seems counter productive to be all humble and downgrading on the mic, while strutting around in arrogance in the cage. Like he said, guys do what they do to hype themselves up, and that's fine, I'm just not sure if he's as upfront as it may seem. Politically being conservative and polite is as I said, congenial and appropriate if that's your aim, but how many of us believe everything a politician says, or even looks at there public persona as a real person. I don't, but people will view this the way they do, and that's cool.
LOL Laakea..... you just asked a question that MOST of us been thinking about from the start of sport history....lol You hear alot of that line in every sport....but you know most of those guys say it because its just sound so politically correct.
Jesus sponsors some beasts.
I always found that weird, essentially you're thanking Jesus for helping you beat someone to a pulp, or hospitalizing them.
I think if the Jesus from the bible knew people were fighting each other for money and entertainment, he probably wouldn't be particularly happy about it.
Oh well, whatever floats people's boats as they say.
YES, valid point for sure. But times change and UFC is a HUGE stage that can be used for postive influence. Why should only Negative,self centered, rude, bully's get to spread thier influence on all those people? He did send David into battle to kill goliath to prove a point to thousands of people!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitchell C
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Originally Posted by Greg W
Weight classes and rankings kind of defeat the whole David VS Goliath analogy.
And of course, good role models is always a good thing.
I really got a laugh when Jason Miller thanked Science for a win.
Believing in Jesus makes you a good role model?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitchell C