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I just watched all 2+ hrs. of this documentary and I enjoyed every min.
Thanks Eddie for bringing me to this video from MTS. :)
About to watch now. The trailer was intriguing.
Only halfway through. People should watch it.
the most important doc ever
Great doc. I'll have to go back and rewatch it because it's a lot to take in. But it's definitely worth your 2 hours IMO. Thanks for putting that trailer in MTS, Eddie. And thanks to Mike McGuire for posting the whole movie.
8.00am on a sunday and you drop this on me eddie .... my minds still blown from the trailer alone
Can we get some conversation going on this? Very interesting stuff to say the least. However, I'd like to point out a few things to put some perspective on the film. First of all, I was under the impression that crop circles were debunked. I did just a little bit of research and found that there are opposing views on this. But just the fact that crop circles can be man made does put some question marks into their legitmacy and the film puts a lot of weight into this phenomenon. Also, the film features David Icke, who is well known for lecturing on the reptilian conspiracy, basically asserting that many of the world's top leaders are reptiles. He was confronted by Jesse Ventura on this and basically looked like an ass. The film also features 2 people who were supposedly abducted by UFOs. Also features "experts" who I'm not too sure about. I wanna believe because the overall mission of the film is to help humanity. But there are just some red flags for me. Somebody wanna set me straight?
In regard to david icke, yes he has some crazy ideas (IMO) about reptilians but some of what he says is still very spot on. ie the monetary system, problem reaction solution etc... Think about how many people might disregard Eddie or 10th planet because Eddie is a "pot head" and "advocates drug use". Not comparing weed to reptilians, just that some people look at things that way.
One more video. A great compilation, most of you have probably seen it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CCIcjIngLA
Good post. Crop circles weren't debunked. It was just proven that a group of people would be able to make what appear to be crop circles to the naked eye. I'm not an expert, but from what I understand, while man is able to replicate the appearance of crop circles, they can't produce the same results like the magnetic fields or perfectly flattened crop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis Ho
And about David Icke, he didn't really discuss his crazy stuff. He pointed out common beliefs. No reason to write him off because ALL of his beliefs are crazy. Ron Paul believes in God, but he has a ton of atheistic supporters based on the things they agree on. So if Icke believes these guys are reptiles, that's on him. But if he wants to end the fed, I'm with him.
Warning: I am going to type a lot on stuff in this thread, just because I don't fear what others think of me and willing to step out of the "hassle free" zone. I am going to use this as a record of my thoughts.
Part 1
I have never heard of this guy and don't care if he is legit or not. He assembled some facts that make some good points. The first thing is the current state of affairs in the gun control laws we have experienced in the last two weeks. Like he said, the U.S. is a big hold up in the plan basically due to our large armed civillian army. They needed a plan to take our guns so we won't revolt. Create a problem, crazy's using guns to kill kids, wait for the population to demand something be done, then take our guns so we can't revolt against the bigger plan.
I want to make a "HUGE" observation that I have been working on for a while. While this video is very non-christian based. A large part of what is discussed is supported with a bible based view. Satan,the anti-christ and the spirit of the anti -christ are described as the great deciever and will appear like a savior, but not be. Is the government soundng lke a savior by takng all our guns away and savng us from ourselves, sure, will we be decieved in the end, probably.
In the bible it says to keep your eyes open and not to be deceived.
The eutopian society that is described in the end really is similiar to the God plan for us and that is what it will be like when he returns.
The micro chip in every human and the one world currency are described in the bible as the mark of the beast. That noboby will be able to buy,sell, or trade without it. It is slowy but surely getting to that point by satan creating problems and then tricking the masses to ask him for help with the solution. There will come to a point when the masses will demand the controlling few take over and "Mark" us. It is/ will be described as a help but in the end will be just about control for the controlling few and for Satan that controls them.
Prior to believing in Jesus, I was a scientific minded atheist and have struggled with the idea of and organized "church" since about day two of my walk. I rarely attend a "church" anymore, but am very much a hardcore bible based believer. It seems to me the highly organized "church" was seen a threat early on and the pyramid scheme described in the movie was set up in the "church" to control and decieve. A select few at the top of the "church" pyramid deciding what is right or wrong instead of the large masses at the bottom doing it themselves.
What if every individual communicated directly with the top? No middle management. That is what Jesus taught us. You must move your requests up several levels of more "worthy" or "rightious" people before they get to me , said Jesus NEVER.
Would you happen to know where that is in the bible?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg W
Real scientist haven't been able to find any evidence of electromagnetic anomalies.Quote:
Originally Posted by David Rosado
People can and have reproduced crop circles that are identical to crop circles, professedly made by extraterritorials, under microscopic analysis.
What do you mean by perfectly flattened? I've look into this a lot and never heard of anyone proposing that crop circles are perfectly flattend. Some people have claimed that the crops were bent instead of broken or that certain parts of the crops show signs of exposure to heat, all been thoroughly debunked.
http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Is...?trkid=2361637
Aliens aren't tagging our crops.
http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/site-index/
http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/...sguided-ideas/
For those of you who wont click the link,
“We are a group of people who were interviewed for and appear in the movie Thrive, and who hereby publicly disassociate ourselves from the film.
Thrive is a very different film from what we were led to expect when we agreed to be interviewed. We are dismayed that we were not given a chance to know its content until the time of its public release. We are equally dismayed that our participation is being used to give credibility to ideas and agendas that we see as dangerously misguided.
We stand by what each of us said when we were interviewed. But we have grave disagreements with some of the film’s content and feel the need to make this public statement to avoid the appearance that our presence in the film constitutes any kind of endorsement.
Signatories (in alphabetical order)
Deepak Chopra
Duane Elgin
Amy Goodman
Paul Hawken
Edgar Mitchell
John Perkins
John Robbins
Elisabet Sahtouris
Vandana Shiva”
Rev 13: 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Sounds like these people might have had a late night visit from "the controlling few" and decided it was better for thier families and them to not "dissapear", than continue to support this movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson
damn, that's spooky. How does 666 relate to the name of the beast? what is the best name, satan? Will people have chips in their forehead? Is this supposed to be in 10 years or 10,000 years?Quote:
Originally Posted by miketubbs
How can Christianity jive with crop circles. The bible doesnt say god ever created other beings on other planets. Or does it?
Or does god or satan make crop circles for some reason?
I'm not going to pretend I know any of the answers to this stuff with absolute certainty but there is this idea called occam's razor that seem like it would be well applied here.
They never supported it after they saw it, so to say "continue to support" isn't quite accurateQuote:
Originally Posted by Greg W
Making celebrities and hardcore activist keep quite or disappear would be quite a feat. Especially Amy Goodman and Deepak Chopra.
Maybe this is why that plane went down with Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens, The Big Bopper.
Certain companies (and gov't members) have been pushing for the chip for a while. Check out a documentary called Freedom to Fascism. It covers it well. The company is/was called Verichip.
As for aliens/crop circles...in Genesis it speaks of other beings marrying the "daughters of men". There is also talk of anakim and other giants (nephilim)...thats what Noah and the flood was about. They were breeding with the women and were evil and had to be wiped away.
So clearly something was on earth at the same time or even before man
Of course this is a biblical view which some may not agree with at all, BUT it does show that it doesn't contradict the idea of aliens or other beings
I dont really care if it's true or who believes it, it's interesting to think about, it could be true. Lord of the rings isn't real and I liked that.Quote:
Originally Posted by miketubbs
I remember the bible mentions giants several times, does it give a description of the size of these people in any type of units like cubits? Was Goliath one of these giants?
Something that is confusing to me is that you would think (I would think) that god could make a book or something that would explain things in a crystal clear and concrete manner and would kind of auto update or something so that it made perfect sense to whoever read it. So if a guy from thousands of years in the future read it, then the book would be extremely detailed and scientific and if a guy from the stone age read it then the book would have terms they could grasp. Do you think a version of the bible like this could exist and is kept by one of the churches or in the ark of the convent or hidden at another holy site?
Is the bible inspired by god and if so to what extent? ie word for word or very generally. Are we missing books? Are there extra books? Why doesn't god just speak to us directly, I dont mean metaphorically but like I would speak to you?
When it says we are made in his image, does that mean god has a body with a head and arms and legs? Does he have guts or a brain? Or do we just think like he does? What did they mean by image?
How could the bible leave out so many things that seem important like when was the earth made? God had to know we would find dinosaur fossils, is he trying to mess with us? Is god ever shown in the bible to have a sense of humor?
the trinity also confuses the hell out of me. How can you be more than one being. during the time god was in the form of Jesus was he also his regular self? Is the holy ghost visible or tangible like jesus was?
The bible says we are gods favorites, right? would he/does he protect us from aliens?
I've asked similar questions when I was in sunday school but instead of answering me the lady got pissed off as if the questions aren't obvious and the pasture was cool but all he could say was that it all hinges on faith. I'm not going to be able to find evidence to prove a lot of it and some thing may not make sense like why does god allow horrible things to happen.
Even when I was a little kid I couldnt understand faith. Why am I going to believe in something that doesn't seem right and I cant prove? I dont understand what faith is. Is it an emotion? The definition in the dictionary makes it sound like its the same as belief or hope but that makes no sense because the reason for holding the belief is faith.
Wow Aaron, I like they way you think. That is some deep theological stuff. The short answer is most of the answers will be between you and God. I am no way qualified to answer but I'll give my thoughts.
I'm sure you understand faith 100%. You go to the fridge, grab a jug that says milk, pour a glass, have faith that is actually milk, and take a drink. It could be any number of other milk looking substances, you have faith that it is milk. Everytime you sit in a chair you have faith that it will hold you, or do you put a weight similar to yours on the chair everytime before you sit to prove it will hold your weight?
Why God allows horrible things to happen? Remember we only know 1% of what God knows for his master plan,it is Gods desire for all to live and prosper, and satans desire to Kill and destroy. We do have free will. There is always a battle raging over us. Sometimes, with lots of old testement examples, God says do XXXXX and people don't do it, so God simply looks away and lets Satan have his way. Sometimes Satan just flat out wins the battle and decieves and kills. more later.
Crop circles? That part of the video was very strange to me at first and just dismissed that part as a little crazyness. But if we are just proposing possible answers, it could be godly beings or satanic beings trying to communicate. have you heard the saying "handwriting on the wall"? That is from the book of Daniel. A strange message was written on the wall to a king, and God only told one man what it actually said. Could really be a heavenly message!
Wish my church was as accepting to questions as you are.
If the answer are between me and god then I'm probably screwed because I'm 30 and hes not talking yet. Never one single whisper or sign. When people say god talks to them, do they hear anything with their ears? How do they know that there not crazy if it's in your head.
I like your milk analogy but I feel it employs a little flawed logic. Hear me out. It makes sense that a milk container in the fridge would have milk in it. I dont require faith to believe that it contains milk because its reasonable and my past experiences lead to to make the assumption that the contents will be milk. So Im making an assumption based on past experience and reason. A mountain of data could be collected and analyzed scientifically showing that in an overwhelming percentage of case, the substance inside a milk container found inside refrigerator will be milk. No faith required.
I just dont see why satan is allowed to do anything, god could snap his fingers and he'd be un-created, right? or is he too powerful to just get rid of that way?
lot of questions there...I'm about to run out the door so I'll do a more thorough response after...I'll message it to you so as not to hijack the thread. I went through a lot of those questions myself before becoming Christian (didn't grow up with it)
oh carp, didn't think about this being off the thread topic, sorry everyone.
Religion is a device used to control the masses. The people in Charge (Bankster, illuminattie, etc) problably dont get to bent out a shape about it. Its just another method to divide the people and make it harder to get organized. I used to be Christian, but after learning how things actually work, I gave up on religion. Makes getting along with others so much easier, an allows me to keep an open mind.
So you dont think the secret society people are religious? Interesting, what unites them? How did they get in?
Just saying religion is what divides us, there has to be common ground and I think theirs might be greed and power. People have the right to believe what they want, however I dont like when it makes people violent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson
I was just thinking that they dont seem to care about environmental damage or global warming. How could you not care about that unless you either believe you are going to be raptured or have anther way off the planet?
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