Lockdown Please Help

So not wanting to jack someone else's thread, I decide to start one for myself. Yes its on the subject of the lockdown. Please view this vid and give me advice on what she needs to focus on. For this sparring match, she is going against the best boy in the gym at her age group. She practice the lockdown only 1 hour before going to the gym that night. I know this is just the start, but I want yall help pin point the area where we need to focus her training on so that she can be ready for the Kids Pan Am in Feb. And please don't just say ALL...... be more precise. THank you so much... Bruce

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8MKfy1-iC0

btw did you count how many 10thPlanetJJ she threw at him?

I didn't get a chance to watch the full video but I watched the first few minutes. Couple things I would like to point out , once she got the lockdown the boy sat right up creating lots of space. She could have unlocked the lockdown and replaced full guard. It took me a while to remember just because I have lockdown doesn't mean I can't bail and get full guard if he creates space.

It looked like she was going for electric chair, she had the arm around the leg for the fat whip which u need to be on your side for. She was laying flat on her back. Also when she tried getting his leg around her neck she kinda just shrugged it over then attempted to roll. If she gets on her left side for the fat whip, then stretch the lockdown as much as u can go, angry rainbow ( lockdown stretched from the left side to the right side in a big arching motion like a rainbow. In the middle point of the arch take her freehand. ( not the one holding the leg onto her neck ) and Heisman ( pimp arm) into his arm pit . This will keep him from turning in and it will keep him straightened out for the submission. When u try to finish the sub make sure the lockdown stays stretched. It's important to note during the whole transition to keep the lockdown stretched and do not stretch them loosen then stretch.

Double under hooks is a must then whip up, then oldschool or plan b or electric chair

But be sure to keep the lockdown and double unders

Tight

I would agree with Jeremy with everything he said. Some little things that helped me:

1) If dude wants to sit up in your lockdown, take guard like Jeremy said, or double underhook and pull him down
2) I wouldn't try electric chair unless his torso weight is down (i.e. double unders first, then go for electric chair)
3) Once she's under the dude's leg, get on her elbow immediately faced behind/under the guy's leg
4) At 4:39, try the whip down (I actually don't know if I'm using the right term, but it's the 5-0 control attempt); I usually can hit the electric chair immediately after whip down

Hope any of that helps her. Good luck!

Hey thanks guys... and merry Xmas.....

I've watched many vids on this subject and thus far all I found are no gi vids. What about the gi? With a gi on, what is stopping the guy on top from choking you out with the gi or just try to put his weight on you and americana you even when you have the lockdown??

Look up Magnus Hanson vids he's the gi 10p guy he shows how to use it with the gi

tried to look him up but can't find anything...just a bunch of skater vids.

Securing the double underhooks should leave you in a safe position, gi or no-gi. I'm currently training here in Brazil in a Gracie academy and I throw lockdowns all the time. The secret is balance and the double unders. When they are coming for your neck/lapelle or arm, you have a small window where you can throw them and go for your sweep of choice (Old School, Plan B, Electric Chair).
Securing those double unders is key, though.

Thanks buddy....we are working on it as we speak. Yes we are working on our JJ on Xmas in a house full of family. What you said about the double underhook is what we just figured out before I came on here and check this thread...:):) So I guess we are on the right path. One draw back is that I'm so heavy and my daughter can't do the proper Whip up, so we end up just doing the Plan B and old school sweep as its might be illegal for kids to do the electric chair. Our goal is to get this down before she go back to the gym next monday.

The submission might not be ok, but there's the electric pass as well!
I can see that you and your daughter have passion for JJ and that's what really matters. Keep posting your vids and improving!

Thanks, well its about 10:30pm here in Houston and its Xmas. Guess what we did after dinner and all the gift exchange was done..? We cleared a corner of the kitchen so that Cora and her cousin can spar. They put a good showing for the grown folks and work off those calories. Videos will be up soon...

Establish lockdown, stretch them out, gain double underhooks, and get to your side (whip up, whip up 2.0, fat whip, whip down). That is the beginning of the basic path for half guard not including the sweeps that follow, but if any one of these basic fundamentals than the technique will be lacking. Cora got to lockdown but several times neglected the stretch out and clinching tight double unders. After that she seemed content to be flat on her back, major no no. I had the same issues starting lockdown but you should definitely have her drill fundamentals first before working sweeps or transitions.

thanks buddy, I've been over her vid many times now since I last posted this thread and I too see this as well. We are working on it. I feel that if she get this lockdown and all the sweep and transitions down, she will have another weapon in her arsenal. Most of the matches that she lost is because the other kids are passing her guard. Well not all the kids, only the bigger and heavier kids. Kids her size can't pass her guard anymore. Once they are in her guard, the rubber guard comes quick and so is the tap out. If she get this lockdown, a huge puzzle to her game is added.

Team gringo on YouTube will take you to him

Looking back at all the tournament lost she had in the past 4 months, if we would have known about the lockdown, she would have been undefeated. Aside from her last NAGA tap out lost, all the lost she had before was only by points. I train her to finish the fight, not collecting points, as I don't even know the point system myself. So when she tried to submit them, they sometimes pass her guard and win the match that way. I feel the lockdown is crucial to bring her game to the next level. This vid is an example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vASvcSnnCi4

Been watching alot of youtube vid of Marcelo Garcia and many other elite fighters and I notice that they don't even use the lockdown at all. Is the lockdown only for 10thplanet people? Also my daughter and I have been working hard on the lockdown during this holiday, and its up to the point when she really apply pressure and stretch me out really hard, I can't bare the paint as her shin ripped my calf muscle. I had to tap. This lead me to be concern about the kids she competing with. Will she get disqualify for the lockdown in competition? Hopefully some of you guys who compete can answer this for me. Thanks Bruce and HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!

The lockdown is just pain, no damage. No one legit will tap to it. That said, some kids might :) If so, she shouldn’t be DQ’ed for that, but who knows about refs these days.

These past few days we been focusing on her guard and guard retention alot. We been drilling the lockdown, the butterfly guard, and the of course the Rubber Guard. While rolling with her, its seems like she got it all together. I just can't wait for tomorrow, our 1st day back to the gym since the Xmas break. I just want to see her in action with someone around her size and see if she really know what we been working on these past 2 wks. If she remember half of what we worked on, those boys will be in for a shocker. We already booked plane tickets for Kids Pan Am, but first I want to test her out at the next local tournament on the 19th to see what we need to work on. No matter what goes down in this next 2 tournament, she will be repping all 10thplanet JJ.