Monkey Mount

After spending 10 minutes mounted on a guy unable to finish him because he was too good at defending I've been looking at Eddie's Monkey Mount in his JJ Unleashed book for a solution.

The techs looks great - but I tried it yesterday and the problem I have is that once you have head and arm control and he instinctively grabs onto your torso, so you need to push off their hip to get the leverage to break the grip of the guy on the bottom and expose his arm. What do you do when he flattens his legs out? When he does this there is no hip there to push off. It worked great when he had his legs bent, feet flat on the mat, but as soon as he felt me push off his hip he flattened the leg and I've got no point to push on...

The dude did have skinny hips though - maybe I should just roll with fat people? :)

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Originally Posted by brianspinaltap

After spending 10 minutes mounted on a guy unable to finish him because he was too good at defending I've been looking at Eddie's Monkey Mount in his JJ Unleashed book for a solution.

The techs looks great - but I tried it yesterday and the problem I have is that once you have head and arm control and he instinctively grabs onto your torso, so you need to push off their hip to get the leverage to break the grip of the guy on the bottom and expose his arm. What do you do when he flattens his legs out? When he does this there is no hip there to push off. It worked great when he had his legs bent, feet flat on the mat, but as soon as he felt me push off his hip he flattened the leg and I've got no point to push on...

The dude did have skinny hips though - maybe I should just roll with fat people? :)

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Step one: Subscribe to MTS

Step 2: Watch Episodes 2, 17, 20, 33 & 41

Step C: tap dudes with arm triangle all day.

:cool:

Ok - I might just do that! :)

Ya the mount system has evolved since that book.

The spike:)

Ok guys, I paid for Pro, watched those episodes mentioned and while there were loads of tips for improving my arm triangle from the mount none of them dealt directly with the issue of how you break the dude's grips if he body locks you. Man, you 10p bitches ripped me off, I feel so conned.....



.....no ha ha!, it was only $5, and there's so much cool teaching to access there it's way worth it. :)

But seriously - how do you break his body lock? I can do it using monkey mount when he gives me a hip to push off... but if he doesn't?

Get both your elbows on one side while your skydiving so you still have base. Bring near elbow down at 12-6 and start grinding it against his temple, then jaw, and when you get a lil more space straight down on his carotid artery. He'll let go.

If loosens up at all, you can also start to set up a mounted go-go. Get your angle and crossface.

anytime they body lock you in the mount they are wide open for mounted go-go platas, monoplatas, straight jackets, special K's ect.

Ok, looked up mounted gogo plata vids - that will be my new go-to, thanks. I'm not a fan of grinding my elbow into people - it's not how a gentleman plays cricket.

So, 10p people, has the monkey mount fallen out of favour? I really like its leverage (as opposed to pain) way of breaking the grip, I'm going to keep trying it to find a way to get it to work...

Mount = guard from the top ;)

Hey sorry man, from your first post I thought you had the underhook and just couldn't break the grip. If he has double unders it's a little different. Eddies mount game is sick though so I'm sure you still got good value.

Also there is a new MTS out ~today, so, you're welcome :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb4v4rvGFnU

I think Ari showed me this technique after he made this video,The video is not an accurate depiction, but it is as close as I can find. The technique I am referring to I think is called the compressor. Works great when someone body locks you with double unders. Basically you post on one foot elevating your opponent and put your hands together, straighten your arms on his head and push down to break the grip. When his grips breaks apart, swing your arm (same side as leg posted) and hug the knee that is posted, thus trapping his arm (keep it tight) your opponent is now open for a go go, or if you prefer stay posted and hugging your knee tight and begin ground and pound as he only has his other hand to defend himself.

Note: If you want ground and pound post up on the leg opposite your power hand, as you will only have one arm to strike with. The other will be busy keeping the arm trapped.

Spiral armbar all day

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Originally Posted by Aaron C

Hey sorry man, from your first post I thought you had the underhook and just couldn't break the grip. If he has double unders it's a little different. Eddies mount game is sick though so I'm sure you still got good value.

Also there is a new MTS out ~today, so, you're welcome :D

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Thanks guys, you've all been super helpful. I've been watching MTS from iPad to Apple TV to my regular TV - works a treat and beats the snot out of what's on Sky :)

Aaron - sorry I mean both - having trouble with double unders and also when I've got the underhook (head and arm control) and he just clasps his hands together over your back. All the vids online seem to have solutions for double unders only - but the mounted gogo should apply to both situations, I think....

Feet on the hips doesn't always break the grip. Depends on how good your monkey mount pressure is as opposed to his defense/grip :-)

Hey thanks Eddie!

I just love the monkey mount position - feels really solid and I can stop them bucking me off by using my legs - it's just a bummer if I can't break their grip - I'm going to try going for a gogo even with their grip still on - hey, maybe it will work :)

Also wondering if they flatten their legs taking away the hip I might still get some purchase by clamping my soles to the outside of their hips... Just thinking out loud - need to get on the mat and try it...

I love when guys hug my torso (pause). I just set up my mono plata and pick how I wanna finish. Brandon Mccaghren taught it at the first east coast seminar and I fell in love with it. Usually I have to set it up, but when a guy hugs they do 90% of the work for me.

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Originally Posted by David Rosado

I love when guys hug my torso (no homo). I just set up my mono plata and pick how I wanna finish. Brandon Mccaghren taught it at the first east coast seminar and I fell in love with it. Usually I have to set it up, but when a guy hugs they do 90% of the work for me.

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Atta boy, Rosado. I was just about to recommend this. If a guy hugs your torso from bottom mount he's asking for death.

OK, after watching the most recent MTS I'm giving up on this Monkey Mount/Monoplata nonsense - it's the Baby Rib Back Take all the way for me!