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In the third episode of the BJJ Kumite, Sean Roberts and Keenan Cornelius finally faceoff and the competitors begin to get restless and demand a meeting with Master Lloyd Irvin.
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In the third episode of the BJJ Kumite, Sean Roberts and Keenan Cornelius finally faceoff and the competitors begin to get restless and demand a meeting with Master Lloyd Irvin.
I'm going to ask a.... "stupid" question. I just started with 10PSTP six months ago and before my interest was MMA. So I really have no knowledge of the heavy hitters in sport BJJ beyond the black belts (Marcelo, Jacare, Roger, Maia, Laranja). Can someone explain why Keenan is "special" in this tournament? Why he was going to be the auto final match before Lloyd put him in the tournament. An the way Roberts is talking about him a few times its like he's got some aura of supreme bad-assery about him so... if that's the case why is he still a brown when he's steamrolling the other "top browns in the world"?
TL;DR: Why is Keenan special in the tournament? Why is he still a brown? (sand bagging?)
Keenan isn't a sand bagger, although he is definitely the best brown belt in the world. He's had his brown for less than a year, and you can only go up a belt every 12 months on IBJJF guidelines. So Keenan spent 2012 as a purple, he'll spend 2013 as a brown, and near the end of this year he will probably get his black belt, possibly before ADCC/Abu Dhabi in September.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Olson
He's special because he's just simply the baddest motherfucker out there that isn't a brown belt. He's submitted all the other top guys at brown, both in and out of the Kumite, like Sinistro, Sean Roberts, Miayo Bros...he's beat some really good black belts, and fought really close matches with others. He just did a heavyweight tournament as a medium-heavy (about 30 lbs less) and fought the giants of the sport like Rodolfo, Xande, Leo Nogueira, and while he lost all of those matches he showed he's going to be a force at black belt.
There have only been 2 Americans to win the World Championships in the gi (BJ Penn and rafael Lovato Jr.) and Keenan is likely going to be the next one. he also has a great shot to win ADCC this year in the 88k weight class, since the 2 usual favorites for that division will be in a Superfight instead of the brackets (Andre Galvao & Braulio Estima.)
Keenan started at BJ Penn's academy in Hawaii, and at purple, with very little training in the gi he decided to move to team Lloyd Irvin. He's been basically unstoppable since. He's the only person ever to win a double grand slam (winning gold in weight and open weight in the biggest 4 IBJJF tournaments of the year.)
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Read this thread to check out his No-Gi Worlds matches from this year. He's just playing around out there: http://www.10thplanetjj.com/threads/...28for-Kurzy%29
Thank you both. An I was unaware of the IBJJF rule on belts.
Yea I mean you don't have to promote according to IBJJF "standards" (1 year minimum between belts) and honestly most people don't promote that way. But, schools that heavily focus on having IBJJF competition teams that hit all the big tournaments (Worlds, Pans, No-Gi Worlds, Europeans, Brasileiros, No-Gi Pans, etc) such as Team Lloyd irvin definitely keep that in mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Olson
You'll certainly find a lot of people that would say Keenan is sandbagging. I don't think he is but that's just my 2 cents. I kind of think sandbagging is a made up thing, but I have a sort of extreme stance on the idea. Keenan is just a savage. Make no mistake he would manhandle most of the non-elite black belts in the world. I think he'd tear apart everyone but the super Jedi level black belts right now. And he's so young and still is improving constantly. Scary kid, and could easily go down as the best American ever.
Okay I'll stop sucking him off now. For what it's worth he seems like a bit of a dick, but a lot of that is because of the Lloyd Irvin rape scandal fiasco.
LOL at LaranjaQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric Olson
The only reason I put in the (sandbagging) thing was because I didn't know how long he's been a brown and just from what I've seen in these videos he's apparently so dominate that I had to ask.
Well he is a 27 time world champion ; )Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony Herrera
somebody said '' Tap ''
It sounded like AJ too. Just sayin...Quote:
Originally Posted by derrick ikwueme
I also feel like Gary Tonon's loud grunt/shout was a tap as well in his no-gi match with Sean Roberts.
Would be cool to see one of the 10th Planet Browns thrown into the mix.
wow victor got hossed in that whole series... absolutely killed
The thing is too, he doesn't have the worst record in GI or No Gi. But I agree because whenever I see one of his matches it always feels like he can't win lol. No disrespect, but I mean he did quit twice and despite one being due to exhaustion, the other was out of sheer frustration because of a grip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Alexander
Gary Tonon reminds me of Adam from Workaholics.