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Tell you what, Bill the grill nickname fits him cause buddy looks like he went through hell with his face all red.
Rafa is incredible. He made a solid black belt look like a purple belt yet again
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I still say Marcelo is p4p the best. That's why I'm hoping they can get a Superfight in before Marcelo's age catches up with him. Rafa will probably end up with more world titles than Marcelo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liquidrob
I say 1 and 1a, pick what style you like better, but Marcelo just hasn't competed since ADCC 2011 I believe, I hope he competes again this year, wont be the same without him
As long as Rafa doesn't think about going to mma than he's going to up there in the p4p list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack LaBarge
Awesome vid thanks for sharing! Regarding being a top p4p guy, I wish Rafa and Gui would compete more in absolutes, as we rarely get to see them in action against bigger guys. I know it is at a lower level, but if the Miyao Bros success thus far with berimbolos and such are any indication of the abilities that the little guys possess to win absolutes, I think it would be awesome to see the Mendes bros entering absolutes to put on a show
Marcelo and Rafa are probably P4P best. I'd pay good money to see a superfight between them.
On a crazy note, I've been to about 4 mendes bros seminars, and in most of those, they lined everyone up by belt level, and tapped down the line. And when that line was done, they circled back and tapped down the line again, until no one was standing.
Granted there were only about 10 brown and black belts in a group of 40 grapplers, they didn't really look any different regardless of size or strength. They were that damn good. To see gym owners get tagged in 30-40 secs, I was like these guys are for real.
It would be a treat to see Rafa x Marcelo, maybe even a passing of the guard, no pun intended.
The thing with Rafa is he is still so young and has no holes in his game, guys can not score on him, the only guy who gives him a competive match is Cobrinha who was the top dog for years
Watch him vs Roldofo, Rodolfo is the number 1 or 2 HW and couldn't pass his guard, he won a judges decision that could have gone to Rafa
I don't really see many guys at 145 No Gi and 155 gi doing the absolutes at that level, so cant really ding him for that, the guy dominates
But, on the other side, I can't remember the last time Marcelo lost to someone his own weight, plus he has some amazing wins against bigger guys like Xande
He has said he has no interest in MMA.Quote:
Originally Posted by as'h
I think he'll be in the top p4p rankings of all time after this year. If he wins Pans, Worlds, and ADCC this year (he will) then that's 3 consecutive Golds at Pans (black belt), 4 consecutive Golds at Worlds (black belt), and 3 consecutive ADCC wins.
That's crazy, especially with how young he is, and he's teaching full time now. Cobrinha is 10 years older and was always teaching full time and still always has battles with Rafa. Cobrinha's the only guy standing in the way. Cobrinha is almost 35 now. Mario Reis and Tanquinho are great, but I don't see any of these people stopping Rafa as he's hitting his prime.
We are all lucky to witness a grappler like this shine and evolve almost every aspect of the game right in front of us.
I do too. The only reason they don't in IBJJF events is because they do Absolutes first there, and they don't want to risk getting hurt and not being able to do their weight classes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh Bodmon
Rafa intended to do Absolute at ADCC 2011, but after Cobrinha's heel hooks, he was in too much pain and decided to rest and ice up. I think Cobrinha said he heard and felt 2 or 3 really loud pops and that his respect for Rafa went up more than ever.
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very true Mike!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Nall
Yeah I've done a couple seminars too. They have balls to do that because I couldn't believe some of the idiots that went so hard trying to really beat them. I used it just as a chance to feel how they roll and learn. They did it both days gi and no-gi. They just stayed in the middle and rolled 5-6 minutes with everyone 2 times each. It was pretty awesome. Their games feel so different too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slick Rick
I have seen some guys say teaching full time will hurt Rafael, but BJJ is a little different than other sports, sometimes teaching will enhance there game, you becomes even more technical is possible for Rafa, I believe he has said he feels teaching has helped his game grow already
He isn't losing speed at this age, plus they seem to have a sweet deal with there gym where all the financial stuff isnt going to be a headache like some guys where they need that gym to live and take care of there family, I may be wrong though
Yea I definitely heard him say he felt like he was becoming more technical by teaching full time. I have a friend at AOJ that says he will just pick stuff and do it at will. The Mendes bros are pretty big on not playing half guard because they can't control the distance but my friend said one night Rafa decided to play deep half all night and was just wrecking everyone with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liquidrob
I know RVCA sponsors their gym. I don't know the details but I have heard they mostly just have to show up and teach.
Part of the reason why they are so good is because they travel and train so much.. They get to see so many different looks and see what works amongst the different grapplers and jj players around the world. It's like they're a traveling tournament duo.. A tournament just for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Nall
What makes 10th Planet pretty awesome is that we too travel everywhere and train with so many folks, that when we come back to HQ, we can see how it fits in the game and add it to the system.. In the end, the entire jits community benefits. It's a collective.
that is why i am a part of 10th planet :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Slick Rick
Thanks for the link, RM is brilliant on the mat. And their academy is beautiful, all white is the shit!
Can we have a Mendes/superfight thread?
http://youtu.be/MhKsxLpdiuI
Mendes Vs Gilmar WRPO 2011
http://youtu.be/u35BL8S3aO0
Abu Dhabi WP 2011 - Mendes Brothers Final
I watched the whole video and there was no sign of Morpheus... wtf?!
Insane Jiu claw control and even more insane set up to the inverted triangle, Rafa vs Marcelo would rule!!
I also wanna see bill and Rafa roll nogi, that's where bill shines the most :-)
Man, I just don't know how guys can stand doing Jiu Jitsu in a Gi. That would frustrate me beyond words. Everywhere on your body there is a piece of fabric that they can grab and hang onto. I would go nuts.
Yeah man I did no-gi for almost 2 years before I ever trained in the gi. It took a good year to get used to. Collar chokes and spider guard were the most frustrating things ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurzy
I love doing both now though. They each are a lot of fun to me.
For sure. I'm hoping if they rolled no-gi the footage wil come out. Rafa is gonna be scary at adcc this year. Hope Cooper gets an invite this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo
You do enjoy it? I guess I would have to get used to it, but I just can't imagine it. All my moves get stuffed often enough already, nevermind if I was wearing giant cloth handle all over my body! lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Mike Nall
I don't know. It's hard to explain. I started wearing it just because the place I moved and I would not have ever been able to get any ranks or progress if I only did no-gi. On top of that the classes were half gi and half no-gi so I figured I'd try both. I stuck with it at first because I was determined to make a lot of the no-gi style chokes and leglocks work in the gi. And they do but it took a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurzy
I see them as the same thing, but I enjoy them for very different reasons. I see them as the same in like a big picture way. You're trying to use use positional control and leverage to dominate someone until they submit. You're just going about it in different ways. Once you get used to the gi the grips become more fun and seem less random. You start to figure out where you're in danger of being gripped from. Good people usually don't just grab in random places. So that makes it easier. The game is a bit slower, so you can think a little bit more. When I take off the gi I feel like I'm able to think and move way faster.
What I'm trying to figure out now is how different should my game be in both. Right now they're pretty similar and some people seem to have the same games (Marcelo Garcia, Jeff Glover) while others have different games between the two. (Rafa Mendes)
I hope I'm explaining it okay I feel like it's not making sense. Maybe it really doesn't haha. I'm not trying to tell anyone to do it or not to do it. For me I love improving in both. Life is short. train what you wanna train.
agreed SlickQuote:
Originally Posted by Slick Rick