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I generally can break people down and keep breaking them down if they posture. I also do pretty well attacking arm bars and triangles, just being annoying in guard lol. Some people who are just stronger or have strong posture say Bicep control ( hands on the arm pits) can give me a hard time isolating an arm or doing anything really. If someone is shutting down your guard game with strong posture but isn't trying to pass what is the next move?
Get better at breaking and holding someone down? Or open your guard and try something else. If I'm really trying to work and someone shuts down a position I try a new one. I find this highly applicable to 93, lockdown, and x guard.
go to half gaurd and grab that deep underhook and work for a sweep or a scramble to their back
if theyre doing bicep control or armpit control or whatever, then ive found i can feed my hands in between their arms and my chest (kind of a zombie) and then force my arms right through and i grab the overhook right away and swing into RG. if theyre pressing down on your hips and stalling then goin in from the outside, grab both their elbows so you can feel your fingers resting on the nerve or pressure point, (its easy enough to feel) and then pull their arms outwards. to make it more effetive rock them forward with your legs and finally if you do a weak rock back and forth for a while while getting into position rocking them forward with your legs with power is even more effective because their base is already a bit stuffed up.
does that make sense?
Yh jus scramble to their back man, whats wrong with ya?
I like to let em posture hard and then go for hip bump sweep. Lots of things open up even if you don't get the sweep.
Same. This is my go to if someone is posturing too muchQuote:
Originally Posted by Will Thaxton
Yup i do the same creates a nice scramble with optionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Will Thaxton
I have a hard time breaking the posture if many guys at the gym. One of them told me to sit up, get a rear naked choke grip over their head (arm behind the neck and holding their head close to you), open my guard and start to lean back. Eventually their head won't be able to hold your weight so their will fall on you and you can recover guard. My other go to option for guys who won't let me touch their head is the hip bump. It's one of the few sweeps that I can consistantly get on most opponents.
I was going to try prison guard and slip out to the back. I think that may work
Jeremy: If you are able to get to prison guard, you already broke their posture. You can easily go for the rubber guard then.
Yeah his posture is broken but because he has Bicep control it shuts down most of my attacks.
If they're just stalling there's going to be an opportunity to break their posture. Just keep fighting for it. Theres also little tricks if you can get a gable on their neck (like pull to the side then back, really hard to stop that way.)
Im missing something..If you have prison guard theres no way he can have bicep controlQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy Gates
No I'm saying rather than trying to isolate an arm for a triangle or an armbar I could attempt prison guard.because he has Bicep control it may be easier to get to prison guard over the other options
Ok I gotchaQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy Gates
In the words of the infamous Nibiru Jedi, Coach Herzog: "Have you tried doing it correctly?"
Keep your hands behind his elbows as he's postured up with his hands on your hips. Just wait, be patient until he pushes your hips to get up in a horse stance. Right at that moment open up his elbows wide and pull your legs in. He will fall right into your guard, posture broken and all :)
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Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo