haha the 'gold' starts at around the 41 minute mark :-)
http://youtu.be/nwW30U7ntlc?t=41m49s
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haha the 'gold' starts at around the 41 minute mark :-)
http://youtu.be/nwW30U7ntlc?t=41m49s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfPT7kild6A&feature=youtu.be
this video made me LOL too :-)
That was fucking hilarious!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Sales
the 11 second mark watch the eyebrows change
Sounded like a lot of "I'm not making excuses" but then making excuses to me. Its the biggest fight of your career....plan and organise well...don't leave anything to chance.
Exactly. I'm not gonna make excuses..but no one was there for me. I didn't have the proper training. I couldn't figure out the time change. When was I suppose to sleep? I felt like shit. Your hand wraps were tampered with.Quote:
Originally Posted by VinceS
I'm done with the fool
Sucks that he kinda semi-retired.
Kinda sorta maybe possibly..unless he goes to jail for tax evasion.
yes assuming what he said at the press conference regarding having never paid taxes is true, we will probably see him fight again, unfortunately it will probably be for all the wrong reasons (paying back-taxes/financial issues etc). I hope that doesn't happen though. If his heart is not in it any more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo
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That Rogan vid is gold
Nah Nick probably has a book keeper and has kept accurate records of all his financial document in order and ready to present to the IRS when selected for auditing, said no one ever. He talks about all this money he wasn't making and in reality he has been making hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars a YEAR (when he isn't pissing hot) and no we find out he hasn't paid any taxes on that money and has been keeping it all. Fuck Nick Diaz. I was born and raised in Oakland, which shits on Stockton, compared to murders and crime. No one gives a shit about his sob story, he wants to take all these opportunities and piss on them, go right ahead. He needs to stop blaming others for his personal bullshit. The commodity of it is so old. He needs legit help.
I feel the same way, was he saying fighting damaged his brain to the point that he was too stupid to pay his taxes and Cezer shroud have hooked him up with an accountant?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo
Ah come on, nobody has his back, not caesar not his brother. Hes not getting pampered and shit. Hes got to deal with soccer mom hate and the rules aren't fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle Spalla
seriously though he might be technically retarded and then were all a bunch of assholes making fun of the mentally disabled or whatever they call retards.
Hahaha, I can't see the vids, but this thread is certainly gold all by itself!
man Nick isn't gonna retire, he's only 29 and he just gets mad emotional and just says random shit, If Nick retires i'll write off the whole 170 division, because lord knows it's mad boring without him, GSP = boring, Jhonny Hendricks = boring, GSP vs Hendricks lol wake me when it's over. two boring ass wrestlers & honestly Condit won that fight but anyway. 170 is the wrestlers division and it's already boring as fuck, without Nick, I'll never buy another 60.00 ppv with the rest of the division.
I tried so hard to not post anything regarding Nick Diaz on here as I know that most of yall are supporting him. However, I just can't hold it in anymore. Don't get me wrong, Nick is a warrior when it comes to fighting, but the full picture he is NOT seeing. GSP and Hendricks hit it dead on. You don't have to hate someone to fight them. You don't have to curse them out to fight them. You are professional fighters, you get paid a lot to do what you LOVE to do. Why go around be pissed off all the time and hating on your peers? Nick would gain so much more respect from his peers IF he learn how to respect his opponents. Nick think that his fist earn him respect, but NO. That is not how it works. Only gangsters and bullies think this way. He just need to have that someone who really cares for him, take him by the hand and show him how to live a good life. Or else I'm afraid this dude will end up doing something stupid. As if admitting that he doesn't pay taxes ever isn't stupid enough.
As far as the fight goes, he LOST.....thats it. Its not because GSP is boring, its because GSP is a smart ass fighter who can take anyone out of their game. I'm not buying that Nick didn't have support. He's just selling yall "wolf tickets" again with this one. He keeps on saying GSP hits like a girl, but that means he himself is being beat by a girl? He can't get out from a girl like hit? Come on man!!!! Here is how DOMINATE GSP is.....Nick already know how GSP is going to beat him before the fight begins, but he still can't do anything about it...now that is a sign of a TRUE CHAMPION. At a few times when GSP got on Nick and Nick was using his leg like a gogoplata looking thing, I was actually rooting for him. I told Cora I will jump to the ceiling if Nick pulls the Rubber Guard on GSP. There were a few times when I caught myself cheering for him to "Pull the Rubber Guard you fool!!!!" LOL
As far as GSP game is boring...I'm sorry but if something is not broken, why fix it? So far there isn't a guy that come close to making GSP change his game. Until then he is going to do what he does...and WIN.
yeah he wins but he's still boring, & yes I wish Nick played rubber guard too certainly after he go go'd Gomi. But i'm a loyal dude & always have been a Diaz fan and always will be win, loose, or draw & fuck respect from his peers he has respect where it matters. From fighters who actually love to fight and not just win a points game like GSP ( Who I do like ) but will never pay 60.00 to watch win a points battle. So he and Hendricks will have fun holding each other for 5 rounds. Nick also has respect from people on the street that like real mutha fuckers that arent putting on a front for the media & from fans that like real fighters that like to finish people. And how he speaks or manages his money really has nothing to do with how he fights, & he's certainly right when he says they need to take points for stalling, they did it in pride & need to do it in UFC, if so the fights would be waaaayyyy more entertaining. Condit won his fight did more damage ect & all Hendricks did was take him down and nothing else. Diego sanchez got his ass whooped by Gomi & kampman but still won with sloppy takedowns & doing nothing with them. There are limitless examples of wrestlers getting there ass whooped but still winning with just take downs, & it's all good it is what it is, but i'll never pay to watch any of these dudes fight. But i'll pay to watch Nick anyday no matter who he's fighting. " because he comes to fight " and that is what fans pay for. i'd never pay 60.00 to watch a wrestling ppv witch is what MMA in America is turning in too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cora Sek
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Originally Posted by derrick ikwueme
Do you actually believe half the shit you say?? Yeah Johny is a boring ass wrestler who just grinds out decisions...wait. So youre just going to write off the entire division if Nick is gone? You must be stoned as fuck if you truly believe yourself
I agree Bruce. I am not impressed by shit talking and bad attitudes myself either.
Has anyone ever beat Silva? Nick thinks he can beat him? When he couldn't beat GSP?
He's calling for more rules? No elbows on the ground?
Sounds like "I can beat you if you are forced to fight MY WAY and not YOUR WAY"
yeah dude i mean what i say, I'll still watch 170 but I wont buy another ppv. who do we have Hendricks, GSP, koscheck, all boring ass wrestlers, the only interesting fight left for GSP at 170 is vs Rory Mcdonald but they train together and will not fight each other so yeah i don't see myself buying a 170 ppv for a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brent Smith
Ben Henderson fighting style is very similar to GSP...so you're not watching that division also?
Its weird when I read your post I ether think to myself, wow he completely nailed it or WTF is he thinking?Quote:
Originally Posted by derrick ikwueme
I think you have an excellent point in that the scoring need to be changed so that escapes earn point as well as takedowns. Condit won that fight, just not according to the way it is currently scored. I say this as a Hendricks fan, its true. Gomi did win that fight as well your right. I think that was a bad decision even if you disregard the takedowns.
As to hendricks being a boring wrestler typically, i dont dont understand how we could be watching the same fights here, 6 knockouts in 15 fights a boring wrestler?
GSP landed many big hits on the ground, not a bunch of short elbows, he worked his ass over being very active in top position and GSP dominated standing up which was like 11 minutes of the fight. Diaz was completely outclassed. This was not a case of winning with takedowns.
Your right, the way nick speak or manages his money has nothing to do with fighting, thing is when a guy acts like such a punk and is so disrespectful to the other fighters and fans and doesnt repugnant shit like pretend to throw late hits, people are going to hate him and going to talk shit on any of his negative attributes including being a nearly unintelligible, ungrateful bitchy, punk. I never hated him until hes talked shit on his own team and coach and if you think about it his own brother as well. Nick diaz ha the same chance at beating anderson as my 2 year old niece. unless hes gonna bitch at him till he keels over.
One of my buddies did a thing called felony fights you might like, just street trash standing there and swinging at each others heads mostly.
koscheck does suck, cant believe hes above Jon Fitch in the rankings, I'm from fresno and although I never met him personally I happen to know hes an asshole.Quote:
Originally Posted by derrick ikwueme
Not fighting your teammates is some stupid monkey shit! I'll fight my best friend today if someone offered to pay me. If you have to hate your opponent then your a simple minded fool, this is a fucking sport!
Really? I have met Josh a few times and he was a class act. It's an act, he admits it's an act. Stopped talked and was really cool, even took picture with my little cousin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson
155 is loaded with exciting fighters, Cowboy,Pettis,Nate Diaz,ect very few boring wrestlers. I'll still watch 170 but i'm not spending 60.00 on that shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cora Sek
ya know I shouldn't say shit like that, I dont know the guy,one of my friends has been doing kickboxing since he was a kid in fresno so he'd bee around him a few times and tried to say hi once when he was getting more well know, he was a dick, maybe he was having a bad day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle Spalla
So you haven't met him personally but you 'know he is an asshole'?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson
Also that 'Not fighting your teammates is some stupid monkey shit! I'll fight my best friend today if someone offered to pay me' comment was totally unrealistic. Lets see how quick you take that fight against a training partner that gets the upper hand against you in every session. See how you get through a fight camp when you have that in the back of your mind the whole time. ;)
you didnt see above? The operative word was "know" but yes you can not know someone personally and know that are an asshole, guess what Im thinking right now. just kidding, like i said above i still should have wrote it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Sales
Why would it be against a training partner that gets the upper hand against you in every session? Are you saying that Rory gets the best of GSP and that the real reason that he doesnt want to fight him?
I have to say If I was offered a fight for money against one of my training partners, that is better than me, I would still take it. I think, it matters what you get paid to lose and if I had to cover my own health care.
LOL you would take a fight against a much better training partner? LOL Why? Aren't there any other people with your experience level and weight out there in Cali? If it is for the UFC title, yeah OK I can see that, but for just a regular fight that would be fucking stupid. Why risk the relationship? There are plenty of other dudes out there to fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson
Also you don't think GSP or Rory have looked at how their training sessions have gone? Those at Tristar already know who would most likely win that fight.
Sorry but the whole 'I will fight anyone, anytime, even my mum' kind of attitude doesn't fly with me. OK you may fight them, but you likely wont be the same fighter you are against someone you don't have a relationship with. Happens all the time, even on TUF when 2 team mates have to fight nearer the end of the season. They nearly always say they feel like they held back a little. Subconsciously. Like Jones said he did with Rashad. Freakshow and Norman Parke etc. So imagine that with a full time training partner. I find it highly unlikely that NEITHER of you would be affected by that. Even if only subconsciously.
Personally I wouldn't want to fight one of my training partners. Even someone I know I can dominate. We go through so much together every day, blood, sweat and tears. I wouldn't want to be the one to take their dreams away.
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I wouldn't be risking any relationship because this is a sport not street fighting. If they want get stupid about it then there arent the type of person I want as a friend.There are guys my weight and experience level sure but who would pay me to fight them? No one would pay for my medical thats for sure. How much do you get paid to fight anyway? You say now that if it was for the UFC title then it would be different, so you do think that GsP and MacDonald should fight?
I agree that the tri-star guys very well may know how the fight would go. So fucking what, we dont (fans) and they are top contenders. What other sport do people refuse to play against their friends?
Who said anything about fighting anyone any time? The topic was fighting your training partner if you were going to get paid. Considering what these guys get paid and that they get their medical problems addressed, Yes I would. I used to box my very best friends in high school and we held nothing back, got fucked up, and made fun of each other and were closer as ever, but my friends are not so monkey brained that they have to convince themselves they hate someone to fight them. It is awkward until you start fighting, yes, especially if you haven't fought before. I know boxing is really more comparable to sparing not a mma fight.
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson
I never said I would fight a friend for a UFC title, but it is the biggest prize in the sport so can see why some might chance it. Even against a friend and training partner.
However, different fighters deal with things differently. I have met very few that are these unemotional robots that treat it only as a sport and never a fight. It IS a fight after all, and many MMA fighters are pretty emotional guys.
Also when did I say I get paid to fight?
So lets say in training GSP beats Rory constantly. You are basically saying, even though Rory knows GSP will beat him, he should fight him anyway because of the fans LOL. Get real. All Rory would gain is a paycheck and a loss on his record. That part of your post screams of immaturity.
Also I am so happy for you that you and your friends beat each other into early punch drunkenness while you are 'holding nothing back'. Good for you! *sarcasm*. You even admit you would take a fight that you know you would lose as long as they paid you LOL.
Anyway, I have made my points. Not wasting my time bickering online and writing these super long posts responding to your constant over-sized posts. It's not my style. We CLEARLY have very different opinions, and more importantly you seem totally unable to comprehend the points I have made.
Have a great day. I am. :)
You pretty much did say friends shouldn't fight for a ufc title because the topic was rory and gsp fighting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Sales
Your still on about one of them always getting the better of the other, where did you get that? If that was the case I doubt they would both be top contenders. If it is known that one consistently beats the other in training then when ufc was looking into the fight they would probably hear that from the trainer and be less likely to set up the fight and good chance the fans would hear about that being the case.
The reason that they should fight anyway (if one was better than the other) is because 1. there ranking in the sport dictates that the fight should happen. 2. fans want to see the fight.
Probably shouldn't have been boxing like that but we didnt know any better, why be a dick about it?
Yes I admit I'd take a fight that I thought I was an major underdog in, you cant really know if you will loose, I dont have a lot of money and I like MMA so why wouldn't I take the fight, to preserve my armature record? UFC's not calling me up anytime soon my friend.
Didnt know we were bickering. If Im not comprehending your points its because they are illogical.
You seem annoyed, I hope you really are having a great day but it seems your lying to play the part of the bigger man and show your not irritated. Hilarious.
Why would I be irritated? I find you a little immature sometimes yes, and always bickering with someone or other on here by drowning people out with posts so long people stop reading half way through.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson
Enough people on here know me well enough to know your posts would not be significant enough to ruin my day. Plus I have just finished training so pretty chilled out for the day tbh. :)
your post weren't so concise either bro. Its does drive me nuts that my post are long, I'd like to be more succinct but Im cant express thoughts in twitter style. I'll try to do better about it.
I dont do it to "win" "bickerings" though I think you know that. Its cool people know you but I dont see how that factors in.
We have a difference of opinion about a non-important topic. That should be non-personal. Lets be friends?
We are cool bro. :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson