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Hi im not experienced and my friend isn't so good either, but some time ago when i was rolling with him, he got to my back, and as i defended, instead of pulling one hook out and scooting my butt out to escape, i just stuck his ankle into the crook of my knee, the same side leg and hip thrust, and he tapped really fast from it
has anyone else done this, and is it in actual move?
its a move but you can defend it with foot posture (especially if they have no pants or tights). I had to slop-scramble my way to the truck one time to defend it. There is a really cool one to sub someone that has a body triangle on you. I really hesitate to give this up because its a go to for myself and one of my training partners but its not exactly secret.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2gFLQpd3oc
close instead of a body triangle, its 2 hooks and i would wrap one hook with the same side leg (the top part of his foot, with the crook of my knee), do leg curls, and hip thrust, and it would act like an inside heel hook
I Understood you. This part of my post was addressing the sub youre talking about,
The vid is a different situation, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson
It's an oldie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Tieu
oh ok I appreciate the reply's ive seen Osianders video before too, i think in the split second moment, I went for it thinking of him lol
also i was wondering why no one really hits it when they get their backs taken, is it kind of one of those disrespectful moves, because it was pretty easy and fast to hit, but i also wonder if i was rolling with a higher level opponent there might be some way out
I use this quite regularly. I've also often wondered why more people don't do it?
Why dont people use blankcounter? Common question we white belts ask ourselves.
Let me just directly attempt to answer your question first. Is there a defense or counter to the counter? lol. Yes, dont cross your ankles with your hooks in, foot posture and forcing the opnt to address serious threats to their neck come to mind.
So as a white belt when we learn an awesome counter we always ask ourselves, why doesn't everyone use this? I hope you realize Im going to get bitched at for writing too long a response.:) Reality is that jiu jitsu is like endless counter to counters to counters. For example gokor has an awesome knee bar that you can use on people that get you in spiderweb. Yet that doesn't negate spiderweb as a super legit position. Nor does it mean that when you put someone n spiderweb you are hoping that they dont know the sweet knee bar. Essentially we are going to keep countering each other until a point is reached when one person's attack is more polished that the other guys defense.
hopefully someone more knowledgable than me will give you a better answer.
Armbar counter at 7:30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2tmwFmunWk
Yeah, thats the kneebar I was thinking of. Probably saw it on this episode of Rolled Up.
Just wanted to say that if they cross their ankles after putting in both hooks, there is a much higher percentage ankle lock you can do on their top foot. Thats why I said dont cross your ankles with your hooks in.
If you reach down to play with their feet, you are asking to get that arm trapped. If you can do it without that, tell him to start stackin his feet.
you're saying if he can get his partners same side foot, hooked in the crux of his knee, with no hands, then he should tell his partner to stack his feet?Quote:
Originally Posted by bobby rivers
what exactly do you mean by "stackin his feet"? Is that different than crossing your ankles?
Thanks.
If you stack, step your foot atop your ankle and keep the connection, there is no way to catch the toes. The sub works, cause the toes are pointed out and he leads his hook with his heel. Lead like a ballerina and problem solved.
Powerful GokorQuote:
Originally Posted by gene k
I see, should have been obvious, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobby rivers