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After weed, I've tried x, acid, shrooms.
No but I did buy some bad weed once that turned out to be artificial grass sold from the local Lowes garden center.
Does smoking weed lead to other drugs? Only if you want it to :)
LMFAO!!! are you kidding?Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Blankenship
I used to be a crystal meth addict. Seriously. Quit in 2004. I did smoke weed before I tried that but it had nothing to do with it. I actually hardly ever touched it when I was using.
On another note. I do think it's pretty sweet that most ex meth people are dead and I am in good shape and choking big motherfuckers out on the mat.
Choose life.
Choose Jiu-jitsu.
I'm sure if you were never lead down the path to trying weed you would never have become addicted to meth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Madsen
Eddie, I'm just curious what drugs you've tried.
Weed isnt a gateway drug.
Wow, psychic eh? I have known plenty of Meth and Cocaine addicts that have never smoked marijuana. I would say Alcohol would be your "gateway" drug since it is easily available and severely impacts your ability to make rational decisions. You're either trolling or plain ignorant. With the availability today to obtain knowledge (Internet) it is ones own decision to remain ignorant (just means that you haven't been shown the facts) I don't drink alcohol, because of how it impairs me... Get it???Quote:
Originally Posted by lost
It's comes down to choice. If you choose to do other drugs than thats all their is too it. We have this society where no one wants to accept responsibility for their actions. "I didn't want to other drugs weed made me do it." Thats silly, if you choose to do other drugs it's simply a matter of free will or lack of will. I hate when people make themselves the victim, one day you have to grow up and understand no one can change your life except you. Too many people are always looking for something other than themselves to blame.
Ignorant? What percentage of addicts do you think used weed prior to becoming an addict, 90% maybe? And I'm not saying weed makes you doing anything, I'm just stating that most addicts used alcohol, nicotine, and weed prior to becoming addicts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Keeling
I guess my last statement didn't quite make sense as alcohol and nicotine are addictive substances but you get my drift.
Lets all just get high and forget I even started this thread.
Try em all and just stick with the ones that suit u best:)
So which drugs enhance experience the most?Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Martin
Weed is not a gateway drug. I love weed, yet I will never touch any other kind of "drug" ever, because I don't want to :) I also agree with the fact that alcohol is more likely to be a gateway than weed is.
Eddie is completely right, it's only a gateway drug if you want it to be to.
I've heard that upwards of 100% of Rapists have breathed oxygen at one point in their lives.Quote:
Originally Posted by lost
Weed leads to CARPENTRY! Whether it's in your garage, kitchen, or elsewhere... That being said just make sure you create on the MAT... Otherwise you'll have a drawer full of foil and toilet paper roll bongs. Crazy shit.
SMOKE. BE. CREATE
thats true, and it can make you high. shit....Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Madsen
There no scientific proof that cannabis is a gateway drug. Just proof that its the shit.
when i was 16 just moved out of home and was smoking a shit load of weed yeah i tried every thing else after that but i think it was cause weed made me feel so dam good that i thought every thing made you feel that good so i thought i would try it all but alas it is not the case i'm 27 now and smoke weed but its not a everyday thing its more of a enhancer for the good things in life and that attitude came with education education is the key and now i tell every one about weed and the good things it does
This is a marijuana myth that has already been exposed by many scientific research studies. There is a well know book called "Marijuana Myths Marijuana Facts: A Review Of The Scientific Evidence" you can find here.Quote:
Originally Posted by lost
Strangely enough we are using that text for the basis of our next segment of This Week in Weed, which can be seen in the next episode of "Mastering The System."
The purpose of the segment will be to examine and dispute some well known marijuana myths and facts, like the one you listed here.
Since I don't know if you are a paying member of this site, I'll help you out a little bit.
Here is what the book "Marijuana Myths Marijuana Facts: A Review Of The Scientific Evidence" has to say about your assumption.
"MARIJUANA DOES NOT CAUSE PEOPLE TO USE HARD DRUGS. What the gateway theory presents as a casual explanation is a statistical association between common and uncommon drugs, an association that changes over time as different drugs increase and decrease in prevalence. Marijuana is the most popular illegal drug in the United States today. Therefore, people who have used less popular drugs, such as heroin, cocaine, and LSD, are likely to have also used marijuana. Most marijuana users never use any other illegal drug. Indeed, for the large majority of people, marijuana is a terminus rather than a gateway drug" (Zimmer and Morgan 32).
Of course they base this statement on obscene amounts of data, citing all of the resources. Just to show you how much data they use, the resources list is 68 pages long, while of course your post on marijuana being a gateway drug is based on...well...opinion.
That's cool though man. It seems like most policies in America (including our drug policies) are based on conjecture instead of data, so you're not alone.
It definitely did for my best friend. He did just about everything. I helped him out, he quit everything BUT weed.
Like I said before, you have to be mature about that shit. If you're childish and just love getting high, fuck yeah you'll be looking for an even better high. But if you're mature and know to stay away from hard shit you'll be fine. Fact is just cause you didn't start doing other drugs cause of pot use doesn't mean someone else won't.
Actually that is exactly what it means.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffRace727
Understand that you are not arguing your point with me, or anyone else on this thread for that matter. You are in fact arguing your point, which appears to be based on your one friend's personal experience, with scientific research and data.
First of all, the desire to experience an alternate state of consciousness has nothing to do with being either "mature" or "immature."
Here is an excerpt from Dr. Andrew Weil's book The Natural Mind.
Why People Take Drugs
"The use of drugs to alter consciousness is nothing new. It has been a feature of human life in all places on the earth and in all ages of history. In fact, to my knowledge the only people lacking a traditional intoxicant are the Eskimos, who had the misfortune to be unable to grow anything and had to wait for white men to bring them alcohol.
The ubiquity of drug use is so striking that it must represent a basic human appetite. Yet many Americans seem to feel that the contemporary drug scene is something new, something qualitatively different from what has gone on before. That attitude is peculiar because all that is really happening is a change of drug preference. Evidence that this is precisely the case is abundant , and it provides another example of how emotional biases lead us to formulate unhelpful conceptions.
It is my belief that the desire to alter consciousness periodically is an innate, normal drive analogous to hunger or the sexual drive." (Weil 17-19)
Also, a person having an addictive personality has nothing to do with trying weed and then moving on to what we would call "stronger" or "harder" drugs. It is completely irrelevant, although it is easy to trick people into thinking that it is related, which is why we have a failed drug policy in the United States. The data is out there and so is the information, so don't take my word for it, instead go read some published scientific texts on the subject and you will have something tangible to base your posts on.
ttt for Truth!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Eisner
It's like an Atheist and a Gentile arguing the existence/nonexistence of God. In the end, who gives a fuck?
An Atheist and a Gentile? That reference makes little sense. And those of us who want a drug policy grounded in science, compassion, health and human rights give a fuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWTheory
Right on Jason, you rock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Eisner
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Keeling
And caffeine! Dont forget that mind altering stimulant. I bet even more than 90% of people used that! Have you considered maybe caffeine is the true evil?Quote:
Originally Posted by lost
And sugar. Ever seen an eight year old after a bottle of fanta? BAN SUGAR!
All baby steps to becoming a heroin addict, why encourage taking the first step.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim Elliott
You're absolutely right. And the original argument doesn't make sense. See what I did there? If not, feel free to PM me. I'll elaborate for you a bit further.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Eisner
No need to get defensive by the way...you look just about as ignorant as those who oppose you.
Yeah I drank a Beer and smoked a cigarette way before i smoked my first joint. There are your Gateway drugs, if there ever was one. Weed is what ever you want it to be.
LOL. Dude...I wasn't being defensive. Your post literally said "In the end, who gives a fuck? " I just answered your question. I think you need to get yourself some gateway drugs, smoke it, and relax.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWTheory
The only thing weed leads to is 7-11. Speaking of which, where are my gummy worms....
So much time an effort that could be spent preventing people ruining their lives is wasted because people actually think like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by lost
You have to consider, if your wrong (and the weight of scientific evidence indicates you are) your actually partially responsible for the problem. Mentally unwell people dont get the help they need because resources are poured into anti drug campaigns that are completely ineffective and have nothing to do with root causes. Its a crime in its self.
Two separate recreational drugs were banned in New Zealand after the Surgeon General said it was a waste of time and the drugs were harmless. This is about political grandstanding, not public health.