nd it scared me, i felt like I allowed it bc I was watching but couldnt tell, honestly thought he was playing. I feel real shitty, but i guess the beginnere did do the rear naked right.
nd it scared me, i felt like I allowed it bc I was watching but couldnt tell, honestly thought he was playing. I feel real shitty, but i guess the beginnere did do the rear naked right.
RNC works. On pretty much anyone.
Lesson learnt? Time will tell. You can never underestimate anyone ever.
I teach my guys to practice paying attention at all times regardless of the sob stories or the 'not really telling the complete truth about their experience' stories and not to forget the "oh my elbows jacked can we roll light?" kind of guy or gal either.
You have to stay calm and go get the tap without hurting them of course, but get it done nonetheless.
This is important in my book, plus, what great practice anyway. After all, they are the closest thing to the street right? So why not go after them in a respectful but strategic way, which always puts a smile on my teams face when a newby enters the 10th Planet domain. I thinks its a great way to take advantage of your skills, and practice never been spooked. Although it happens time to time, but if its instilled into your mind from the get go, its a healthy way to practice paying attention. Im not saying the guy wasn't paying attention, but if he is experienced and a 2nd dayer comes at him, I think it needs to make you 're adjust' your mental game, and not make that same mistake or limit it from happening again.
I might be going into it a little too much but it was an easy segway to start the conversation anyway.
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Originally Posted by FRANK BARCA
Tell your boy to tap next time. It happens.
No matter if the choke is for 3 seconds or 3 minutes they will always eventually go to sleep. Do you know proper resuscitation techniques if they go out? He needs to tap.
I'd be concerned if it was the 3 dayer who got put to sleep but not a guy of that experience, we can rely on them to look after themselves, sleep happens. There's a train of thought many subscribe to that says you should experience being put to sleep at some point during your novice days; to break any irrational fears associated with losing consciousness or to simply see what the limits are. This is better off done as a controlled experiment rather than letting it happen during sparring.
Disclaimer: Repeated and prolonged lack of consciousness are never to be encouraged nor advised to anyone. Train smart stay safe.
I know how to wake them up, told him though you have to tap if youre caught, i do, he caught me, i tapped. and we have 1 girl who is going to be coming to train with us and i told them if she catches you you better tap, because its not that serious that you have to get a limb broken or choked unconscious
Well the 2nd most experienced guy allowed his back to be taken and then allowed his opponent to sink in the choke; so he failed twice already. He went out because of his ego, he didn't want to accept the fact that someone fairly new was going to tap him so he fought for his life not to tap and be went out because of it. Like I said: he already failed twice, he shoulda just tapped, accepted the technique and learned from his mistake. Being a white belt myself when I have a sub in on a higher belt or someone from another school A lot of them fight for their life not to get tapped by a white belt. It's just an ego thing. Tell your guy to tap sooner in practice next time.
I got choked out while I "thought" I was defending. It was odd. Later durring a roll my professor said I had a very relaxed "go out switch". When I asked him what he meant he said a lot of guys freak out ot that moment of nearly going out. I asked if that was good or bad, he said neither really, just depends. I tried to figure out why that was and I tied it back to my raver days and nitrous oxide. Passing out wasn't a new experience. Body had been there and done that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Garry
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Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren
Sounds like you're gym could gain a lil more experience. Was there a huge weight advantage?
this is true, i'm the president of the club and and the most experienced, second most is a d1 wrestler, 195 and competes at the same level as me, but he slept on the guy, the 3rd dayer is 6'4 160
just cause dude is new to your gym don't mean he hasn't been training. lesson learned. cant sleep on anyone.
Like Frank said, pay attention and never underestimate anyone, even day 1 guys. They may be a 3 year YouTube warrior with some living room sparring under their belt..which means they have a few things in their arsenal.
Maybe he needed it Jon. If you're worried about having a girl in there and them not tapping. Might of been a good thing it happened. I get that with guys who visit not tapping..I'm nice, I let stuff go if I need to. Not all are. I'm the instructors wife. I feel the need to be nice. Egos man. That white belt good for nothing ego...
Being able to take the new guys is one of the first and most important skills needed. Must be able to teach the lesson of jiujitsu beats muscle. Without that, you have nothing. Your guy that went to sleep is NOT that experienced. D1 wrestling is NOT jiujitsu. It's a sport that revolves around shoulders never touching the mat. He won according to his sport.. But lost in jiujitsu. Sounds like your wrestler guy is the one needing the "first day of rolling lesson" himself.
Also, feel your new guys out before letting them roll. Ask about experience, even in other sports. If you think they could even survive your #2 guy, only let them roll with the #1 guy... Be in control of your class and YOU make the matchups you want in rolling
If you cannot have a female train, then the tone of the gym needs turned down. I ran a college club for about 4 years, Barncat runs it now,but I still advise and participate. It's not an mma gym. You must be able to cater to all kinds of people. Lots of women and even some guys don't want to roll hard, ever. The club can be ran in a way that keeps everyone happy. Muscle brain can get his fix of going super hard and getting tapped 25 times per roll, and the small female can work on her new moves and set-ups in a flow roll. Main thing is YOU must make the matchups and set the tone...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tori Applegate
How many instructors could handle a top competition brown belt? If you get tapped by a lower belt big deal...smile and keep rolling. That's why I like the coach prefix instead of Master.
Well, that and some of the guys may need their ego checked. I have guys that visit that try to over power me or just stall me to get through the roll just so they can say I didn't tap em, and sometimes I don't, but sometimes I do and maybe I helped their ego a bit. Lol. But she could easily get hurt if your guys don't have the control to not spaz out and hit her with a knee while doing an M-1 pass(example), or something aggressive like that. But if she's rolled with the guys before, she knows so I'm sure she'll be fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottRay