Problems with whip up when I have double unders

Yeah I was primarily using lock down as a holding position to stall and fight for the underhook so I could take the back or work from half guard with a underhook. Since hooking up on here I have really been getting into the lock down game because I spend most of my time in half guard rolling just because my side control / mount escape game is pretty good. So if Im ever mounted/side controlled by some one at my level or lower I will get out relatively fast and pull half guard.

Im also more comfortable with half guard. However lately I have been reading posts on here and trying shit out and it has been working for me. Yesterday I tried the old school sweep for the first time and hit it. Its a pretty money sweep. I was getting smothered by bigger guys and then started using jaws of life to get out and that has been money too. People havent been able to stop me from getting the double unders. Yesterday I rolled with a bigger guy. Did the jaws of life to get out and then got the double unders but was still stuck with double unders.

He was up high but was using his shoulder and bearing the weight down that way to keep me pinned. I was flat on my back with double unders but couldnt get the whip up. This ever happen to any one else and how should I approach this.

There a bunch of whips. Omaha, Fat, Traditional, and the Humbolt Park :) plus a bunch of other options as well. Tons of info on MTS. Well worth the $5 per month.

Let go of the lockdown and Make him base out, throw that underhook to get deeper and on your side. :)

1. While maintaining the lockdown, bring your knees towards your chest. By doing so, you elevate your opponent's foot and take them off balance.
2. Instead of pushing your opponent upwards by pressing him upwards, try the Tomahawk. With the Tomahawk you release the gable grip you have and swing your same side arm upwards at a 45-degree angle, aiming towards your opponent's armpit. That pushes your opponent off your chest while also turning you onto your side. Finish in perfect double unders.

Nice explanation Scott Ross!

Could try this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cchJ5x8YTTA

Yeah you need to develop your whip up. Right on Scotty Ross

There's the prison guard route too! :)

Thanks every one after posting on this forum my lockdown game is getting much better. It seems like now its like second nature. Once Im in half guard I slap on the lock down and get the double unders instantly because I already know what the deal is. Im hitting the whip up consistently the only time I have problems with the whip up is on the big guys but I think I will get it in time. I have been hitting old school consistently ever since posting.

I hit the plan b occasionaly but as a situational thing if they are off I will hit them with plan b. I was having problems with the D'arce for a little while but fixed that by keeping tighter. When I roll in gi I have to be weary of lapel chokes as well but the defense is there. I need to start drilling the plan b sweep to make it more fluid and start working on taking the back from lock down iinstead of going straight for the sweep. This week Im going to try and focus on taking the back.

Also I already had a solid deep half guard game and it blows my mind how well it ties together with lock down. Its like ok I am either going the lock down whip up progression and seeing what happens from there or just completely abandoning it and going deep half. So I have two full trees of submission to work with. Mind blowing stuff

if your already using the jaws of life to get double unders, i would go omaha whip. its probably the only whip up i use especially against someone bigger. you gotta watch out when you whip up cause that darce is always there

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Originally Posted by alex kim

if your already using the jaws of life to get double unders, i would go omaha whip. its probably the only whip up i use especially against someone bigger. you gotta watch out when you whip up cause that darce is always there

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Yeah I have to be weary of the D'arce I was hitting whip ups left and right the first day I was starting to get comfortable with lock down and the next day every one was pulling D'arce chokes because my instructor made it a point to show the D'arce counter to lock down. I think because he sees me following this flow he wants me to trouble shoot and face these issues in the gym as opposed to getting exposed to it in competition.

So I have been keeping my head close and being extremely weary of the D'arce and I have been getting really good at fighting for the double unders from experience the last couple of weeks.

Any one got any videos of the omaha whip up?

yes its on my thread on the 4th page

Also check out the mechanic sweep.

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Originally Posted by DavidHamp

yes its on my thread on the 4th page

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Yeah I saw it like 5 minutes after I posted what would be awesome especially for new guys like me to lockdown is if we had a video demonstrating all the whips