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I prefer the traction and feel of gi pants. But at the last tournament I went against a player who uses the gi a lot, and he used them to pass. Just want to know if its worth it to wear the pants and either learn to break grips or just deal with it, or if tights and my normal ankle sleeves will give close to the same amount of traction. Thanks.
Tights. (Note that this is my personal views and is also based on the assumption that you don’t train Gi as well)
1. Even though it’s generally illegal to grab them, people will, at least for brief moments. It’s like grabbing the cage in MMA; pretty much everyone grabs it for a moment now and then and it can make a huge difference.
2. It’s easier to wear tights all the time in class and get used to them than to train all the time in class no-gi with no one grabbling them and have people grab them in competition. It’s the same philosophy on sports specific training we at 10th planet embrace when it comes to gi vs no-gi.
I feel that I have more mobility in tights than gi pants. I also like the cotton ones rather than ones made from rashguards material because they get less slippery when wet from sweat.
I highly advise against the gi pants for competition. People will grab them, guaranteed. When that happens, whether you know grip breaks or not, it can be crucial and change the whole match. The real answer is whatever you choose, be sure you train in the same type of attire. Being use to the clothing is the most important thing..
If you don't want your pants to get grabbed don't wear gi pants. People aren't even doing it to cheat, it's just often an instinct to grab them. If you're doing no gi you might as well just do no gi and wear shorts or spats or both. Sometimes I wear gi pants when I do a no-gi roll at the end of the night after a gi class, and getting it grabbed just comes with the territory. Bill Cooper is really the only high level grappler I've seen compete no-gi with any frequency wearing gi pants. And even then he was probably just lazy after competing in the gi earlier or didn't have any shorts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manny Rocha
I feel most comfortable in pants. Eddie doesn't seem to do to bad in them.
Def go with tights. I have a pair of the 10p ones and I like them a lot. But talk to someone at your school that has them and kind of judge your size. You saw me at the Strikehard tournie I believe, and I was wearing those tights and they're a men's medium and I weigh 120 . Most guys don't like them toooo tight. I get really good traction and I mainly play a lot of RG. Hope this helps. Also, might def want to go with the cotton ones..Sean had some that were more of a sports material (not sure what kind). #1 they didn't really stretch well. #2 they tore up fast. #3 they were very scratchy on the inside to wear. I know, I wore them once..terrible. Also, you can wear shorts over them. A lot of guys at our school do that.
Try the spats hoach. The pants are cool but people will grab them and at the kakuto it's not illegal for them to grab the pants anyways.
Don't wear any spats, Vale Tudo shorts or bust
Kind of where my heads at. I feel I get better grip with out spats, even with sweating. Vale Tudo short leave no grabbing options, less they grab your cup and you got to make immediate eye contact less they want to appear gay.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Mejia
Stick with the pants Manny, way better trapping ability. You will get used to breaking their grips. If someone grabs your clothes the grab theirs. Makes no senses that it's ok to grab pants but not shorts. Either you can grab clothes or not :)
Thanks. Yeah whenever I have worn tights in the past they seemed to be too slick still, making it hard to tell much of a difference from no tights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo
I wanted some phalanx pants, but they've been out of stock for several months.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo
Thats because they are working on the best 10th Planet Rashguard in history. Which should be out in about 2 weeks ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Manny Rocha
There has been a trend to punish gi pants in nogi comp lately. I've seen rule sets that allow the grabbing of your opponents gi pants but not shorts. Not even your own, like when defending a kimura. It made no sense to me either, but its hard to see it as anything but a disadvantage under those rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo
Manny, did he grab the inside of your knees while you were buttscootin, pin your feet to the ground, then hop to side? This used to shred me.
Pretty much, he stacked me more to the side not straight beck though, then used the gi pants to keep to keep my feet pinned to the ground.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobby rivers
There is an armdrag there. I will show you during the camp.
I shouldn't have plugged those pants so hard during my podcast, I fucked up. They are still by far my favorite pants :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Manny Rocha
...AND the understatment of the year award goes to: WILL THAXTON!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Will Thaxton
Yayyyyy!
*Crowd roars with approval*
Kimurawear spatz are cheap on Amazon.com for you guys in the United States. I have two pair and I wear them as much as possible for rolling. I love them.
I love when guys grab my Gi pants.
Spider Guard to Triangle, Spider Guard or Omoplata ;)
I would greatly appreciate it, thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobby rivers