Most effective submissions for big old ghetto booty people

Don't worry, this doesn't concern Renato Laranja even though the title includes booty.

I know long limbs are generally better for jiu jitsu (and possibly all sports?) and I've seen my sparring partners lock up a d'arce really easily due to their long, thin arms. I decided to work hard on my d'arce and it's improving but I'm never gonna have the natural advantage they have due to having average length (as far as I'm aware) arms.

My big genetic advantage in life is having natural muscular, thick legs and glutes. They're not particularly long - bone length is normal but they're thick as hell. My dad's an even more extreme example - real melon calves. My question is, is there some way I can exploit having big legs? Would that make a triangle tighter or give me some benefit in some other sub/pass etc?

Thanks for any input.

All body types have there advantages in jj. Look at Keenan and Marcelo, complete opposite body types and both complete badasses.

On the triangle, try the tee-pee. With the darce learn the Japanese Necktie. They both allow you to finish at a further fulcrum. With the tee-pee all you have to do is cross your ankles and the Invent all you have to do is connect your hands.

Invent is supposed to be Jnt.. autocorrect..

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Originally Posted by bobby rivers

All body types have there advantages in jj. Look at Keenan and Marcelo, complete opposite body types and both complete badasses.

On the triangle, try the tee-pee. With the darce learn the Japanese Necktie. They both allow you to finish at a further fulcrum. With the tee-pee all you have to do is cross your ankles and the Invent all you have to do is connect your hands.

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Thanks. You're quite right about ways to finish that work without needing longer limbs, but my question is: does having big legs bring any advantage I can exploit? Maybe it doesn't apart from looking good in speedos. Which may or may not be an advantage.

lower center of gravity, strong base. Get good at no-gi judo. Always get the take down and get to dominate positions like kesa gatame while they're still dazed.

Chris Herzog has some ni-gi judo/sambo techniques(not nearly as much as I would like, hint Mr. Herzog)

Karo Parisyans Judo for MMA is playing at my house often. Its great but it doesnt address how to fall or throw your partner safely so be aware that you want to get some knowledge on that and dont think there isnt much to that aspect, its important.

When I see jj guys practicing takedowns often it seems that they are very afraid of getting guillotined and that limits them getting in and getting good hooks and being hip to hip. I hesitate to give technical advice because of my rank but if you understand what makes guillotines work then you should understand what you can do to make them fail. Its not very nice but I like to spear people with my head, neck posture is important, keep your neck straight and stiff like its part of your trunk, chin down and dont look up look out of the top of your eyes, keep a shoulder connected to your neck when you can and always land on the correct side and bolt your hip to the ground. I mostly figured this out myself so take it with a grain of salt. (dont know if you have that expression in Finland)

Yes. Having big legs has a ton of advantages to exploit. When I'm sizing someone up, I'm not afraid of pecs and delts. Its dat ass. Like Aaron said, our center of gravity is our hips. All of us. The more skeletal structure and muscle to reinforce it the better. Just start consciously leading and moving with your hips more. When they start moving in the proper direction they will be much harder to stop than someone who is top heavy. The trick is finding the direction with the timing. You got ass. Use it.

first thing I thought was marcello has thick ass legs. Great point about so much of jits being hip related bobby.

No Spartan but I'm pretty sure our gay team mates wanna see pics of this bodonk u keep raving about. It will help with determining what techs are recommended

roflo (is that it rotflo? I hate this shit) eddie you are fucking hilarious!

Yeah I couldn't think of a non-homo way to say show us your legs/ass. Cool of Master Eddie to look out for our gay 10th planet members interest.

Also it might help if you make sure the shit i wrote's not wrong.

A common adage for BJJ is that short, thick bodies are best at leglocks. I don't know how true that is, but that's what they say.

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A common adage for BJJ is that short, thick bodies are best at leglocks. I don't know how true that is, but that's what they say.

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A common adage, Who says that? I've never heard it, nor do I think it holds any validity.

Yeah Zog isnt too short ...

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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog

A common adage, Who says that? I've never heard it, nor do I think it holds any validity.

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I think hes afraid of Renato ... and the potential advances ...

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Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo

No Spartan but I'm pretty sure our gay team mates wanna see pics of this bodonk u keep raving about. It will help with determining what techs are recommended

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Originally Posted by Stewart Landry

Yeah Zog isnt too short ...

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5'10 and 78/165ths" isn't short!

Pics?

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Pics?

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LMAO

I dont know what to tell you, Nathan Orchard is lanky and he likes Leg Locks, I'm compact and I like D'arc chokes. I think that there are many body types that will help you achieve mastery with submissions faster, see Boogieman Richie and his D'arc/Jap/Mexican/Vice Grip, but you shouldn't let your body define what you do. Big Booty people seem to get good at Kimuras/Americanas pretty naturally because once they pass and get some weight down they can attack an arm.

I would think certain subs would be easier because of thicker legs. I have a buddy that is shorter (5'5") so his legs are shorter. He may have a harder time locking in a triangle choke but holy shit you're tapping right away when he does lock it in.

I would think smashing that booty in someone face during twister side control would be HUGE advantage. Russian Cowboy would be crushing as well. I once saw an instructional from keith Owen on sitting mount that might be worth bringing out of the closet for somebody with some sitting power.

Tits or gtfo.

butterflyguard! tree trunks like marcelo!

No booty shot (can't risk being targeted by spartan Renatch) but here's a link to a pic of my legs.
http://s910.photobucket.com/user/pjd...6e92a.jpg.html

I'm not saying they're the biggest in the world but I don't really do much squatting n they're still way out of proportion compared to my arms. Btw, I told my girlfriend I was just stretching in the living room and took a pic quickly to avoid explaining that I had people on a forum asking for booty pics! lol 10th planet isn't your regular bjj experience. Love this forum. Thanks for the technique advice - I'm not trying to find a magic bullet but just wanna exploit any genetic advantage. Pan.

Triangle chokes all day all night buddy.