Do you roll over and give up position or do you stay mounted and try to finish from top?
I haven't been able to finish from top unless I attack the arm, what are some ways to tighten the mounted triangle without rolling over?
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Do you roll over and give up position or do you stay mounted and try to finish from top?
I haven't been able to finish from top unless I attack the arm, what are some ways to tighten the mounted triangle without rolling over?
Turn your body to the side, facing the same direction his trapped arm is pointing. Post out on the mat with both of your hands and sink your hips low into the choke. A tight squeeze and curl with your legs will get the tap really quick. Never give up the top. A well secured mounted triangle is probably one of the most dominant positions in the game. Almost a sure tap.
I recently got a hold of a video that Ryan Hall teaches concerning this matter and he basically says what you just said...:) NEVER give up the top position.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan Kelso
I prefer to keep top position at all times in every situation. That being said if the triangle is locked up on top I have no issues going to bottom for the finish if he is going to fight to turn me over. My primary concern is locking up the triangle tight while on top...after that its pretty much pick your poison. A big part of jitz is knowing where and when to use your energy\strength. Everyone has a certain amount in the tank. Im gonna save it for the squeeze and the proper angle (see ryan hall video for this)vs. fighting to stay on top when its already locked in tight.
I agree. Make sure it's tight and if it is there really is no worry either wayQuote:
Originally Posted by VJ Bella
My preference is to stay on top.
It all depends on a number of things... 1) being the situation, If you are in a BJJ match and if your down with 10 seconds left, and your better at finishing from the bottom, definately go to the bottom. If your in an MMA fight, NEVER give up top position!! If you cant finish the Triangle from the top, their open to BRUTAL ground n pound! 2) As for finishing the mounted Triangle, shift your body weight to the opposite side of the triangled arm and Lock it up TIGHT.. once its locked in use your hips (by turning into the arm going across their neck, and finishing the choke like you would on bottom.Quote:
Originally Posted by ml82
Also can I ask if your are fully locking it up all the way?? Because if you are, its should be relatively easy to finish
I have a good triangle so I don't mind rolling and giving up position. If you're not confident in your triangle I wouldn't roll
I never bother trying to finish the triangle from mount. If I'm there I'll always attack the arms. It takes less energy than trying to squeeze a triangle with your own body weight on top of your legs.
i like to follow the same rules as a bottom triangle generally. make sure you ahve it locked up properly, ie foot is sticking completly out, make sure youre holding the shin with one hand, (difference from bottom here being that you should be prepared to either base or roll from here. i prefer holding on to it and basing with elbow if i need to. and then for me ill just go for a bit of a ride. i prefer a slow squeeze getting gradually tighter rather than an explosive squeeze. in saying that ill go slowly and generally count up to 7 or 10 and then explode.
other thing worth mentioning is if you want to get back on top after being rolled, then work on timing it to use their momentum against them and throw them either back into being mounted or atleast on their side.
thats my ten cents at least
Now that I think about it, I do roll over pretty often. Gonna try to stop doing it.
Well said. Finishing from top is technically a stronger, higher % finish. The only reason someone would feel like their mounted triangle is inferior to the normal guard one is simply lack of reps on the mounted triangle. If you've done 10,000 guard triangles and 10 mounted ones.. Ya the guard would be better. Bad training though... Develop that mounted triangle finish, trust me, you won't regret itQuote:
Originally Posted by Nathan Kelso
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I stay on top. No tips on making it tighter besides pulling the head up.
Angles angles angles. Stay low hips and hook his leg to keep him from swiveling with you (exactly like on bottom). Angle to where you are perpendicular to him. Keep your hips low! Should be nasty nasty. Barncat can pop your eyes out of socket with a deep angle on this mounted triangle. I dunno what mine feels like but if its half as nasty as his, it'll crush souls..
If I get to the mounted triangle and can't finish even with adjusting my angle properly, I'll attack the other arm with an americana. That usually does the trick. Havn't had nearly as much luck with finishing with the inverted arm bar from there.
I always roll to my back, cause it looks cooler that way.