Wrist Locks and Pressure

Was hoping to start a similar thread to the "Ultimate Leg Lock" thread.

If you have any wrist lock submissions or wrist pressure techniques please share.

Here is a really nice, basic video (sorry its a Gracie video lol)

http://youtu.be/n7rFsf5Ff3A

I'm gonna love this thread!

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Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren

I'm gonna love this thread!

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I'm gonna hate this one.

my wrists bend in half. I have a weird flexibility to them. Goodluck with this shit on the goatherder doe!

Can't find too many...time to go deep into the catch vault... (walks into darkness)

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Originally Posted by George Katechis

my wrists bend in half. I have a weird flexibility to them. Goodluck with this shit on the goatherder doe!

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the weird flexibility defense is bad when you rely on it. unless you can comfortably bend your hand right down and touch your forearm then i would not rely on it.

i like to go for them wwhen ive got a mounted triangle armbar. because hearing someone say you won from a mounted triangle armbar wristlock sounds funny. its also a place i feel really comfortable in, ie dont feel like il get swept or lose control over them. if i get swept back into full guard triangle. ill drag the arm over to tighten the triangle more and then grab my shin with m other arm. i cant remember the last time i got a mounted triangle and didnt get them tapping from something.

the double one is the shit.

I'm interested to how many wrist lockers there are. Seems like a pretty uncommonly focused on submission.

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Originally Posted by Brent Smith

I'm interested to how many wrist lockers there are. Seems like a pretty uncommonly focused on submission.

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i know theres a dude in 10th planet stockholm that always go for them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCEksHRdQBM

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Originally Posted by Isaac Atley

the weird flexibility defense is bad when you rely on it. unless you can comfortably bend your hand right down and touch your forearm then i would not rely on it.

i like to go for them wwhen ive got a mounted triangle armbar. because hearing someone say you won from a mounted triangle armbar wristlock sounds funny. its also a place i feel really comfortable in, ie dont feel like il get swept or lose control over them. if i get swept back into full guard triangle. ill drag the arm over to tighten the triangle more and then grab my shin with m other arm. i cant remember the last time i got a mounted triangle and didnt get them tapping from something.

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I can touch my forearm easy.

We have a guy that's really good at them and you can't wrist lock him back...he can touch his forearms and I believe he made Sean step on one to prove the strength and flexibility of them.

I love wrist locks. LOVE EM.

In fact, anything that someone would consider cheap or gimmicky, that's prob my fave.

My absolute favorite one is The Wrister.

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Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren

I love wrist locks. LOVE EM.

In fact, anything that someone would consider cheap or gimmicky, that's prob my fave.

My absolute favorite one is The Wrister.

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I'll never forget the first time you wristered me. My mind was blown.

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Originally Posted by George Katechis

I can touch my forearm easy.

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all im saying is theres a difference between no muscular support and flexibility. it used to be practically impossible to kimura me, and then i fucked my shoulder up because i never worried about that shit and now im super careful with it.

i havnt seen your wrist so i cant say but id rather mention something that might help you out. your wrist could be fine now but in a few years. who knows.

I use them all the time, I see them everywhere!

i use tons of old school jiujitsu wrist locks all the time. I use them to break grips and clear frames mainly.

I'm a LE officer and a defensive tactics instructor, and use wrist locks in that capacity, but rarely when I roll. I'm not sure why I separate the two. I should probably add this to my game considering I'm pretty proficient with them.

George, I would be interested to see if your wrist could handle radial deviation, meaning when you are goose necked(palm to forearm) if you can handle rotating the hand to either side. We call this a Z lock. I have found that this can usually cause a tap even on people with very flexible wrists.

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Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren

I love wrist locks. LOVE EM.

In fact, anything that someone would consider cheap or gimmicky, that's prob my fave.

My absolute favorite one is The Wrister.

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You'd love training with my Judo Coach, he was a wrist lock fanatic. Gene LeBell was one of his mentors and inspirations.

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Originally Posted by George Katechis

I can touch my forearm easy.

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My wife is the same. Just insane natural flexibility. Scared to start teaching her Jiu Jitsu because she'll have a great guard right off the bat.

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Originally Posted by Brent Smith

My wife is the same. Just insane natural flexibility. Scared to start teaching her Jiu Jitsu because she'll have a great guard right off the bat.

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I'd love it if my wife had a great guard. I'd also love to have a wife.

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Originally Posted by Ross Davidson

I'd love it if my wife had a great guard. I'd also love to have a wife.

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Not looking promising in that regard.

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Originally Posted by Brent Smith

I'm interested to how many wrist lockers there are. Seems like a pretty uncommonly focused on submission.

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I go fro them all the time but I wouldn't call myself a "wrist locker" since my overall level of jits is so low.

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Originally Posted by George Katechis

my wrists bend in half. I have a weird flexibility to them. Goodluck with this shit on the goatherder doe!

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I hate you. :) Can you bend it in half and twist it to the side. the sideways pressure is what make them work for me.

*just saw tony already asked this, and more articulately then I did as well.*

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Originally Posted by Ross Davidson

I'd love it if my wife had a great guard. I'd also love to have a wife.

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Be careful what you wish for, my friend. Be very, very careful. ;-)

My base style is Japanese jiu jitsu which was included 4 levels of wrist locks and variations. In grappling I find that the most commonly available and useful are "goose neck" type, where the fingers/wrist are forced downward towards the forearm.

A few of the more common positions for these are:

• Jiu-claw
• Spider web (when someone is defending the armbar)
• Locks around the waist
• Some double wrist-lock (kimura) situations have the option
• Triangle position
• Mount

Basically anytime you have the elbow down to the wrist controlled and an opposing base for support, there is an option available for the goose necking type. That said, I would NOT sacrifice position and/or control in order to get a wrist lock. These are better when using to initiate a scramble situation, create a bit of space, or to give the opponent an "owie" for the hell of it.

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Originally Posted by Scott Elliott

Be careful what you wish for, my friend. Be very, very careful. ;-)

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Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren

Not looking promising in that regard.

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Well I guess that won't be happening anytime soon. As Brandon rightly points out: I'm pretty hopeless when it comes to women

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Originally Posted by Ross Davidson

Well I guess that won't be happening anytime soon. As Brandon rightly points out: I'm pretty hopeless when it comes to women

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Has anyone told you the "3 rings of marriage"?

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Originally Posted by Ross Davidson

I'd love it if my wife had a great guard. I'd also love to have a wife.

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i have a test i put them through, i casually bring how id like to choke someone. if she lets me ill be interested, if she lets me and defends and then escapes. ill propose.

She's gotta like to be choked

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Originally Posted by Brent Smith

Has anyone told you the "3 rings of marriage"?

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Three rings?

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Originally Posted by Ross Davidson

Three rings?

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You have the engagement ring...the wedding ring...then the suffering!

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Originally Posted by joeln

My base style is Japanese jiu jitsu which was included 4 levels of wrist locks and variations. In grappling I find that the most commonly available and useful are "goose neck" type, where the fingers/wrist are forced downward towards the forearm.

A few of the more common positions for these are:

• Jiu-claw
• Spider web (when someone is defending the armbar)
• Locks around the waist
• Some double wrist-lock (kimura) situations have the option
• Triangle position
• Mount

Basically anytime you have the elbow down to the wrist controlled and an opposing base for support, there is an option available for the goose necking type. That said, I would NOT sacrifice position and/or control in order to get a wrist lock. These are better when using to initiate a scramble situation, create a bit of space, or to give the opponent an "owie" for the hell of it.

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I like the info.

I've been trying to use wrist pressure techniques a lot from different positions that put you in danger. I actually was able to get a wrist lock tap from turtle.

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Originally Posted by Brent Smith

You have the engagement ring...the wedding ring...then the suffering!

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Hahahahaha nice!

This only works with the gi or at least sleeves, when someone is in your guard and using bicep control, bring your elbow to your ribs trapping their hand in your armpit, lay the hand of you trapping arm on your opposite peck. The motion to make it tight is tricky but your going to raise your trapping arm to bend their wrist upward and inward.

From top side, when someone is framing up, if they place their palm flat on your chest to frame, trap their elbow against their ribs and simply lean your weight on to the trapped wrist. You can also do this if they aren't framing against your chest, just trap the far side elbow against their body and thus the matt and apply pressure with your free hand, bend their wrist back (extension not flexion)

When your opponent has your back with seat belt control, fall to the side of the underhook and trap their elbow against the mat, gooseneck style wrist lock.

Hand fighting inside the guard. Grasp their hand with your opposite hand so that your fingers are curled around their pinky finger side. Press their hand to their chest. With your other hand (same side as their trapped hand) reach through space between their side and elbow up to your trapping hand, you can either use this hand to add more torque or grasp their wrist to prevent them from straightening their arm across their body.

There are a few when someone is clasping their hands to defend an armbar. I have never gotten them to work without mma gloves personally, for the most part, I find I need the arm controlled from the elbow to the wrist to make wrist locks work unless you are completely dry.

Of course the kimura can be done as a wrist lock more than a shoulder lock and the americana can also be done with the back of their hand pressed against the matt to make it a wrist lock but without rotation (deviation) some people are immune.

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Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson

This only works with the gi or at least sleeves, when someone is in your guard and using bicep control, bring your elbow to your ribs trapping their hand in your armpit, lay the hand of you trapping arm on your opposite peck. The motion to make it tight is tricky but your going to raise your trapping arm to bend their wrist upward and inward.

From top side, when someone is framing up, if they place their palm flat on your chest to frame, trap their elbow against their ribs and simply lean your weight on to the trapped wrist. You can also do this if they aren't framing against your chest, just trap the far side elbow against their body and thus the matt and apply pressure with your free hand, bend their wrist back (extension not flexion)

When your opponent has your back with seat belt control, fall to the side of the underhook and trap their elbow against the mat, gooseneck style wrist lock.

Hand fighting inside the guard. Grasp their hand with your opposite hand so that your fingers are curled around their pinky finger side. Press their hand to their chest. With your other hand (same side as their trapped hand) reach through space between their side and elbow up to your trapping hand, you can either use this hand to add more torque or grasp their wrist to prevent them from straightening their arm across their body.

There are a few when someone is clasping their hands to defend an armbar. I have never gotten them to work without mma gloves personally, for the most part, I find I need the arm controlled from the elbow to the wrist to make wrist locks work unless you are completely dry.

Of course the kimura can be done as a wrist lock more than a shoulder lock and the americana can also be done with the back of their hand pressed against the matt to make it a wrist lock but without rotation (deviation) some people are immune.

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Will try all of these thanks!

Cool, I just noticed that I should have written the back control one a bit differently. You have to secure their arm past the elbow not necessarily trap the arm to the mat.

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Originally Posted by Tori Applegate

We have a guy that's really good at them and you can't wrist lock him back...he can touch his forearms and I believe he made Sean step on one to prove the strength and flexibility of them.

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Who is the guy?

I just hump legs. "See leg lock thread"

Got the goose neck writ lock from omaplata last night. Powerful. Since Spencer brought up this thread I've been noticing them everywhere.